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Holy ********* Crazy
(05-31-2017, 05:54 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm in no more of a minority than most people. Most people's views aren't being represented by the people running for office, they just vote party lines without realizing that what they are voting for doesn't really jive with their views. What I am in favor of isn't socialism. On the global scale it is a center-left ideology and one that FDR espoused. So it's far from unrealistic.


Most people don't even know these things. How many people can tell you our population has tripled in a century and that the number of representatives has remained the same? How many people can actually tell you how the POTUS was originally elected and the original purpose of the Electoral College? How many people don't realize they really aren't party members and that our political parties aren't int he business of policy? It's not that people don't think it's broken, it's that they don't care enough to look up and see what's in front of their face.

I'm not saying you are a socialist, I'm saying there are true socialists and true fascists, and they are never going to have anyone to vote for and I'm fine with that.  You don't have your FDR style guy to vote for now, but at some time maybe you will if that's what people decide they want.  From what I recall you didn't have anyone to vote for in your more libertarian days.  That may be getting a push now.

The fact that people don't know those things may be sad, but it's not for a select few to decide for them that things aren't right.  You can try to educate them.  They may learn it all and still not care, and that's their choice.  I would start with pushing an amendment to increase number of reps.  I don't think many would find that unthinkable or offensive.  
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall

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Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-30-2017, 10:18 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - 6andcounting - 05-30-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 10:48 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 11:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:05 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:12 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:20 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 10:47 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:13 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-30-2017, 11:19 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 11:37 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:41 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 01:23 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 06:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:48 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:34 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:40 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Benton - 05-30-2017, 11:34 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:36 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:54 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-31-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 02:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-31-2017, 03:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 05:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 07:21 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 07:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 06-01-2017, 02:14 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:30 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-02-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-03-2017, 08:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-05-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Aquapod770 - 06-05-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-06-2017, 06:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:17 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - jason - 06-02-2017, 11:07 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:42 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 06-01-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-01-2017, 09:09 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - HarleyDog - 05-30-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Millhouse - 05-30-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Millhouse - 05-31-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 09:08 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:00 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 01:54 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:16 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:59 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 10:57 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:05 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 04:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 08:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 09:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 11:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:24 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 11:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-01-2017, 12:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vas Deferens - 06-01-2017, 01:30 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 10:21 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:26 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 07:51 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 06-01-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 10:27 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 10:28 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 01:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:15 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 01:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 04:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 04:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 03:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 06:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:55 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 04:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 05:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 05:54 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 05-31-2017, 09:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:25 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 05-31-2017, 10:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:28 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 05-31-2017, 10:58 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 05-31-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 05-31-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 10:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-01-2017, 08:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vas Deferens - 06-01-2017, 10:12 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:36 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:54 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-01-2017, 12:00 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:24 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:37 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 02:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-02-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-02-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-03-2017, 08:53 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-03-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 06-01-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - ballsofsteel - 06-02-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 06-02-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-02-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-04-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-04-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-05-2017, 01:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 12:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:47 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 06-07-2017, 05:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-07-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-07-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-06-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-06-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-06-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-07-2017, 02:03 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-07-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 06-12-2017, 04:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 03:39 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 06-13-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 09:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 11:36 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-13-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Trump stabbed to death - Rotobeast - 06-13-2017, 07:51 PM
Kathy Griffin - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-03-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-04-2017, 12:28 PM
RE: Kathy Griffin - Millhouse - 06-03-2017, 11:49 AM
RE: Kathy Griffin - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-03-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Kathy Griffin - ballsofsteel - 06-03-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-03-2017, 04:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-05-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-05-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 11:44 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:58 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 12:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 06-06-2017, 01:27 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 01:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 02:11 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 03:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-06-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-09-2017, 07:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 06-06-2017, 02:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 02:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 09:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-07-2017, 03:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-07-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-07-2017, 12:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-08-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-12-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 11:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-12-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 01:22 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 03:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 12:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 01:24 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:22 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 01:49 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 02:07 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:08 AM
Trump stabbed to death - Vlad - 06-13-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 02:17 AM
RE: Trump stabbed to death - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 05:56 PM

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