Marvin said Ross was not apart of the plan going in

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(10-30-2017, 12:58 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Wow. That is a great comparison. Hayward-Bey went what 5th or something?

I'm sure the Raiders thought they were getting a super fast WR who was complete.

Disagree. DHB's flaws were known leading up to the draft. He was not some complete WR coming into the NFL. The Raiders (Al Davis) were enamored with his speed and thought the rest would develop. However, it did not.

NFL.com Wrote:Bit of a one trick pony at this time. Might be the draft's most dangerous vertical threat, but offers little else. Long-legged and struggles to generate consistent separation out of his cuts. Not as consistently effective on jump balls as he should be, considering his natural size advantage. Too often double-clutches the ball. Questionable toughness running across the middle. Lacks strength and consistent effort as a downfield blocker.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/darrius-heyward-bey?id=80427

On the flip side, John Ross was not considered a project at all. His ONLY concerns were durability and size (which the latter doesn't matter unless you're looking for a big-bodied, jump ball WR). He was/is expected to be able to get open in short, intermediate, and deep routes. He gets very, very quick separation regardless of route type.

As Aaron Rodgers says, R-E-L-A-X when it comes to Ross. The only thing that will make him a bust is durability. From a pure talent perspective, he's golden. He just needs time for the stupid ass coaches to give him an opportunity in a game, which knowing these coaches will only be when the Bengals are out of playoff contention because they are that dumb.