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"Racism"
(03-16-2018, 01:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I just find it ironic that the same people who insist that "gender identity" is genetic or biological also try to claim that the only differences between races are cultural.  It seems like they pick and chose when to label something as "genetic" and when to say it is "cultural".

What cultural issue explains why 80 to 90 percent of WRs, DBs, NBA players, and track stars are black?

Who "insists" that gender identity is genetic or biological?  Who are these "same people" who then claim the only differences between races are cultural.   It would be helpful to look at actual arguments, if you can cite someone.

You keep confusing the claim that race is a cultural construct with such biological facts as some people are taller or darker than others.  I don't think you can cite anyone who actually says that height is cultural (though changes in diet traceable to changes in culture may produce some changes in that respect).

No "culturalist" thinks that Somalians have darker skin than Koreans because of Somalian culture. No one thinks there are so many tall black NBA players because more African Americans listen to hip hop. But it would be odd to call tall people a "race," wouldn't it? Yet you seem to be arguing for something lie that.

If someone classifies a Dravidian from southern India and a Somalian as both members of "the black race," as the British often did in the 19th century, it is accurate to say this classificQation is "cultural" without saying their very dark skin color is simply "a construct" which did not exist before the classification system.  When the British created their caste system in South Africa, they didn't imagine the differences in color between British, Indians, and Africans, but they did wholly imagine a "natural" rank order of racial value based upon those differences.

Question: The U.S. military had a problem during WWII when Japanese American soldiers were stationed in Mississippi--how were they to be defined in the existing system of racial segregation? Were they white or were they black?  If was decided they were white. Do you think that classification was biological or cultural?
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"Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-14-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-14-2018, 01:19 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 04:30 AM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-14-2018, 01:43 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-14-2018, 02:19 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-14-2018, 02:47 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-14-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: "Racism" - michaelsean - 03-14-2018, 04:13 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-14-2018, 01:45 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-14-2018, 01:51 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-14-2018, 02:23 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: "Racism" - Beaker - 03-21-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-21-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: "Racism" - PhilHos - 03-22-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-14-2018, 03:10 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-14-2018, 04:54 PM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-14-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 04:34 PM
RE: "Racism" - michaelsean - 03-14-2018, 04:17 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-14-2018, 04:37 PM
RE: "Racism" - michaelsean - 03-14-2018, 04:49 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-14-2018, 04:52 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-14-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-14-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: "Racism" - PhilHos - 03-14-2018, 05:46 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 06:25 PM
RE: "Racism" - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-14-2018, 07:01 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 07:19 PM
RE: "Racism" - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-14-2018, 07:42 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-14-2018, 07:21 PM
RE: "Racism" - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-14-2018, 07:40 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 09:17 AM
RE: "Racism" - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-15-2018, 11:31 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: "Racism" - PhilHos - 03-15-2018, 04:32 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:24 PM
RE: "Racism" - Benton - 03-14-2018, 07:52 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 10:49 AM
RE: "Racism" - Benton - 03-15-2018, 02:35 PM
RE: "Racism" - PhilHos - 03-15-2018, 04:15 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:28 PM
RE: "Racism" - hollodero - 03-14-2018, 07:00 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 11:46 AM
RE: "Racism" - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-15-2018, 12:10 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 02:19 PM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-14-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-14-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: "Racism" - StLucieBengal - 03-14-2018, 07:29 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-14-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-14-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-14-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-14-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 03:19 AM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-15-2018, 06:45 AM
RE: "Racism" - michaelsean - 03-14-2018, 09:23 PM
RE: "Racism" - Arturo Bandini - 03-15-2018, 06:43 AM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-14-2018, 07:40 PM
RE: "Racism" - PhilHos - 03-15-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-14-2018, 08:48 PM
RE: "Racism" - treee - 03-15-2018, 04:56 AM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-15-2018, 09:29 AM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 01:24 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 01:33 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: "Racism" - GMDino - 03-15-2018, 01:36 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 01:39 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 02:01 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 02:15 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:03 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:06 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 11:01 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-15-2018, 11:22 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 10:39 AM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 10:43 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 11:16 AM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 11:26 AM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 12:50 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 02:09 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 06:22 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 12:27 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 09:09 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 08:16 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-15-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-15-2018, 09:13 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 09:32 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-15-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: "Racism" - michaelsean - 03-15-2018, 09:34 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 09:41 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-15-2018, 10:03 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 11:10 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-16-2018, 12:07 AM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-15-2018, 11:20 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-16-2018, 04:57 AM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-16-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-16-2018, 01:01 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-16-2018, 09:02 AM
RE: "Racism" - Nebuchadnezzar - 03-16-2018, 09:20 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 11:02 AM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 11:36 AM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 01:25 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 01:51 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-16-2018, 05:18 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 02:13 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 05:55 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 07:04 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-19-2018, 01:24 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-19-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-19-2018, 06:19 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-19-2018, 07:06 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-19-2018, 11:15 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-20-2018, 08:07 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-19-2018, 07:17 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-19-2018, 11:42 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-20-2018, 08:12 AM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-22-2018, 04:59 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-22-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-23-2018, 12:38 AM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 10:07 AM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-23-2018, 10:38 AM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-23-2018, 01:59 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-23-2018, 04:39 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 06:37 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: "Racism" - masterpanthera_t - 03-16-2018, 05:47 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-16-2018, 06:35 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-19-2018, 06:03 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-16-2018, 09:36 AM
RE: "Racism" - Nebuchadnezzar - 03-16-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-16-2018, 01:36 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-16-2018, 01:43 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-16-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: "Racism" - fredtoast - 03-16-2018, 06:00 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-16-2018, 02:32 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-23-2018, 10:33 AM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-23-2018, 04:21 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-23-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-23-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 02:12 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-23-2018, 04:32 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-23-2018, 04:52 PM
RE: "Racism" - bfine32 - 03-23-2018, 05:04 PM
RE: "Racism" - Belsnickel - 03-23-2018, 05:14 PM
RE: "Racism" - Dill - 03-23-2018, 05:39 PM
RE: "Racism" - Bengalzona - 03-23-2018, 06:33 PM
RE: "Racism" - BmorePat87 - 03-23-2018, 07:19 PM

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