Helsinki--the Tipping Point?

[hollodero]

(07-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: As for Trump's comments in Helsinki, yes, they were ill advised.  However, I have a question for the "treason!" crowd, what exactly changed based on those statements?  What benefits did Russia gain and what did the US lose?  I honestly think Trump is trolling people at this point.  Do people really want to go to war with Russia?

I didn't say treason, I sure thought it was deeply unpatriotic though, but Americans use that term differently than me obviously. As for your question, what the US is potentially losing is the moral highground, the trust of allies and partners. Also, it's yet again a very divisive move, and that's in Russia's explicit interest. Even if Trump were just trolling, that's still bad for the country, isn't it? i think there's a reason a president isn't really supposed to be a troll.

Why you'd ask about war, I do not know. I don't know of anybody who wants to go to war with Russia. There's something in between a military conflict and cozying up though.