09-27-2018, 12:21 PM
LOL looks like you still haven't squared this--
With this--
So two quick points:
1. The issue of how ideology relates to--or drives--political positions, flies in the face of data and/or generates logical inconsistencies--that is never "off topic" on threads in this forum.
2. You don't get to raise the issue of how ideology drives politics by accusing others of "extremism" (referencing gun control no less) and then unilaterally decide it's "back to the topic" the moment your own projection becomes the issue.
You claim your inconsistencies merely express a "range of opinions," yet those you disagree with are "extremists," "boxed in by orthodoxy," who demand "the correct answer to every question." It's others who show "disdain for different opinions" and "hyper-partisanship," never you.
But if, after saying this, you characterize refusal to condemn the entire religion of Islam as simply support for "Islamic oppression of women"; and you characterize a refusal to call other humans "animals," even ISIS, as "support" for ISIS, then you are doing exactly what you claim your "extremists" do. You are demanding people buy your total, condemnatory (and uninformed) agenda or they are misogynists and ISIS supporters--THE ENEMY. That is how people are "boxed in by orthodoxy."
You know I could draw on examples of your orthodoxy/ideology overriding data on a range of other topics (anti-communism? antifa? fake news?)--always with a flourish of extreme anti-extremist rhetoric-- but that would really take us off topic.
(09-27-2018, 12:43 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Still haven't squared supporting women and the organization most responsible for their oppression on the planet, eh? Not to worry, I'm sure your logical inconsistencies don't trouble you at all. Now, if we can leave your support for Islamic oppression of women aside and get to the thread topic?
With this--
(09-26-2018, 09:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's the problem with political extremists. You either have to buy their whole agenda or you are the enemy. God forbid someone acknowledge that one political party or ideology can't have the correct answer to every question. Matt probably forgot to add the extremism of the far left posters on this board, they can be quite a turn off to liberalism as well.
Eh, he's just proving with every post that a hyper-partisan person such as himself cannot comprehend a person have a range of opinions. He's boxed in by his own orthodoxy, when it's challenged in the slightest he has to see the challenger as an other or an enemy.
So two quick points:
1. The issue of how ideology relates to--or drives--political positions, flies in the face of data and/or generates logical inconsistencies--that is never "off topic" on threads in this forum.
2. You don't get to raise the issue of how ideology drives politics by accusing others of "extremism" (referencing gun control no less) and then unilaterally decide it's "back to the topic" the moment your own projection becomes the issue.
You claim your inconsistencies merely express a "range of opinions," yet those you disagree with are "extremists," "boxed in by orthodoxy," who demand "the correct answer to every question." It's others who show "disdain for different opinions" and "hyper-partisanship," never you.
But if, after saying this, you characterize refusal to condemn the entire religion of Islam as simply support for "Islamic oppression of women"; and you characterize a refusal to call other humans "animals," even ISIS, as "support" for ISIS, then you are doing exactly what you claim your "extremists" do. You are demanding people buy your total, condemnatory (and uninformed) agenda or they are misogynists and ISIS supporters--THE ENEMY. That is how people are "boxed in by orthodoxy."
You know I could draw on examples of your orthodoxy/ideology overriding data on a range of other topics (anti-communism? antifa? fake news?)--always with a flourish of extreme anti-extremist rhetoric-- but that would really take us off topic.
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