11-19-2018, 05:43 PM
(11-19-2018, 02:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Marvin works his ass off to try and get the Bengals to win. He has a huge ego and his personal reputation is defined by the won loss record of the Bengals. It is ridiculous to claim he "isn't trying" or is "content with losing". The fact is it is very hard to win in the NFL. If there ever was an NFL coach who was "content with losing" I guarantee he would not have a winning record like Marvin.
So, I'm curious brother. How exactly do you 'define' Marvin's tenure here?
He had a very good stretch from 2011-2015 where he had 5 straight winning seasons and playoff appearances.
In the 7 years prior to that, he was 60-67-1 and in the 3 years after that, he's 18-23-1.
He deserves a lot of credit for that 5 year run, but he has a losing record in the 11 years outside of it.
That isn't even talking into account the playoff losses, the primetime record and so forth.
(11-19-2018, 05:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Name a coach who has made it to the Super Bowl with out a single top tier free agent on his roster.
I don't know of any. Marvin has had some talented teams but they all had holes that needed to be filled before they could make Super Bowl run. The 2015 team might have made it if Dalton had not been injured. The '14 team went into the playoffs with Kevin Brock starting at TE and Rex Burkehead at WR. The 2013 team is probably the only one that could have come close to a super bowl run.
Teams like the Packers and Giants have won Super Bowls with rosters that were hit hard by injuries. Other teams have made it to Super Bowls with rosters that had weaknesses. These constant excuses for why Marvin has failed are tiring. Other teams have overcome obstacles to at least win a playoff game here and there.
Marvin and his teams haven't been able to overcome any obstacles, not a single one...in multiple opportunities. What does that say about the head coach?
