11-19-2018, 06:43 PM
(11-19-2018, 06:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Marvin has had success despite being handicapped by one of the worst owners in professional sports. His record is far from great, but it is pretty good considering what he was given to work with.
Marvin knew who he was choosing to work for in 2003. He continued to know exactly who he was working for each time he signed an extension and decided to keep working for him. Once he decided to work for Mike, and continue working for Mike, he has to take his fair share of blame for what happens under his watch and his direction. Hell, I think having Mike as an owner is a selling point for Marvin. He knows he'll never be held responsible in any real way.
Quote:Because they signed free agents to help with both starters and depth. Perfect example is the 2011 team. In the offseason the Bengals admitted they needed help at OG when they tried to sign Deuce Lutui, but when that deal fell apart they did not go after anyone else. We end up in the playoffs with Mike McGlynn starting at OG. Multiple years we needed a LB and they signed an over the hill guy like Hawk, Harrison, or Minter instead of brining in real talent. In 2009 we made the playoffs with an O-line that was mostly unsigned free agents with no starting experience (Cook, Livings, Roland).
So, those issues didn't stop him from getting to the playoffs (like some other teams through the years that have had issues in certain areas)...but once he makes it there, those same issues leave him helpless and incapable of winning?
If someone told you in 2003 that we we're hiring a coach that would be given a new contract after 15 years, an NFL record for playoff losses without a win, a dismal primetime record, complete ownage by the Steelers at PBS...would you have been excited about the hire?
