Pro-Choice People: Babies Feel Excruciating Pain During Abortions

[Belsnickel]

(12-19-2018, 04:56 PM)michaelsean Wrote: But if you think the life growing inside is also a life, you aren't against abortion because you are trying to tell others how to live their lives.  Too many times it's framed (because it works) as men trying to control women, when it really is about trying to protect the baby.  I'd rather people argue about whether it's a life and does that life's rights supersede the mother's than the laziness of just saying it's men wanting to control women.  Just like pro-choice people shouldn't be written off as people who   like butchering babies.  

I started to say I agree, but I don't know. Even if you are arguing that the gestating cells are life, you're still trying to insert yourself/the government into someone's personal life and gain control over that in some way. This isn't even touching on the patriarchal origins of the anti-abortion movements. I would agree that boiling the argument down to that level is lazy, because it's always lazy to go that route, but it isn't rooted in inaccurate ideas. That being said, I doubt most people that would say it are able to articulate it in this way.