Pro-Choice People: Babies Feel Excruciating Pain During Abortions

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(12-22-2018, 03:29 AM)fredtoast Wrote: A man does not have "off spring" until tje child is born.

And giving a man the power to force a woman to carry a child and give birth is absolutely giving him control over her body. 

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/offspring

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off·spring
  (ôf′sprĭng′, ŏf′-)
n. pl. offspring
1. The organism or organisms resulting from sexual or asexual reproduction.
2. A child or children of a parent or parents: the offspring of Zeus and Leto.
3. The result or product of something: "the glaciers, the offspring of the gentle snow" (John Muir).

You'll have to forgive me if I choose the dictionary over Fred's neutral word. 

As I said we see it differently. The man controls nothing that wasn't once freely offered while knowing full well the possible outcome.