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Hoda Muthana
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(02-21-2019, 09:15 AM)Dill Wrote: If she was born in the U.S. how does she not qualify for citizenship?  Because she already is???

She has been "levying war" I guess. Certainly "adhering" to an enemy. 

But has Congress declared war on ISIS?  I am wondering if this "treason" might have the same status as "adhering" to a criminal gang. Criminal but not treason.  Maybe Fred or Bels would know?

 It would be interesting to know if she wants to come back simply because there is now no future for her with ISIS in Syria or because she genuinely found the Islamic State a horror to live under. If the latter, then it would be a valuable counter-terror measure if she could be returned to the U.S. and her story told, step by step, from recruitment to arrival in Syria, to what life was like under ISIS. Especially for a young woman. She could do that from jail.

Treason involves armed conflict, not necessarily a declaration of war.  

And sorry to the 20 year old, but you don't get a redo.  We have a lot of people her age in prison who didn't get a do over.  "Oh my bad.  Won't happen again."
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall

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Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-20-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-20-2019, 11:42 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-20-2019, 11:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-21-2019, 12:39 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-21-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 09:54 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 04:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 07:17 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-25-2019, 08:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-25-2019, 09:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-25-2019, 10:33 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 08:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 12:06 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-22-2019, 12:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-25-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-21-2019, 09:24 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-21-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Bengalzona - 02-21-2019, 10:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Au165 - 02-21-2019, 10:08 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-21-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Vas Deferens - 02-21-2019, 11:09 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 11:14 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Vas Deferens - 02-21-2019, 11:24 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CKwi88 - 02-21-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-21-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-21-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-21-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-21-2019, 07:01 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-22-2019, 09:48 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-22-2019, 09:55 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:28 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 07:39 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-22-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 08:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 11:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-26-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 10:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-26-2019, 11:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 11:02 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-27-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 10:42 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 10:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-25-2019, 02:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-25-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 01:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 04:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-27-2019, 12:25 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-27-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-26-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 09:08 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 09:54 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-26-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 11:37 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 11:44 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-26-2019, 01:50 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-26-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 03-04-2019, 11:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 03-05-2019, 11:33 AM

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