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Hoda Muthana
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(02-26-2019, 11:37 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Whether the person is someone that joined ISIS or is an alt-right incel pushing conspiracies online, if they engage in criminal activities they should face punishment for those. If they are US citizens, we should treat them as such. My big thing is that a lot of times the people that end up in these groups (ISIS, white supremacists, gangs, whatever) are there as a result of being vulnerable to propaganda for a variety of reasons. The people at the tops of these organizations prey on these people, offering them everything they want. Often those promises fall short.

If this woman is a USC then we should let her face consequences for her actions, but if she recognizes the mistakes she made then there should be compassion.

Should she be tried in Syria for her crimes before we even discuss whether she should be returned to the US?  Also, she isn't a kid who fell under the thrall of the local gang or some other local, daily, influence.  She had to actively seek them out online (I don't know about you but I haven't encountered any Isis related sites while using the internets), then purchase a plane ticket to Turkey and then be smuggled into Syria.  This is a rather large cut above any other example of this sort.

As for compassion, sure, once she truly pays for her monstrous deeds.  As I stated earlier, there are reams of testimony from enslaved, raped, women about how the Isis brides ran herd on them and controlled them for the men.  I'm going to reserve most of my compassion for the poor women who were enslaved and raped en masse.  I'll let you know if I have any left over for someone who joined willingly and went to great pains to do so.





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Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-20-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-20-2019, 11:42 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-20-2019, 11:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-21-2019, 12:39 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-21-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 09:54 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 04:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 07:17 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-25-2019, 08:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-25-2019, 09:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-25-2019, 10:33 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - SunsetBengal - 02-25-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 08:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 12:06 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-22-2019, 12:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-25-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-21-2019, 09:24 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-21-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Bengalzona - 02-21-2019, 10:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Au165 - 02-21-2019, 10:08 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-21-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Vas Deferens - 02-21-2019, 11:09 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-21-2019, 11:14 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Vas Deferens - 02-21-2019, 11:24 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CKwi88 - 02-21-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-21-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-21-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-21-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-21-2019, 07:01 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-21-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - BmorePat87 - 02-22-2019, 09:48 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-22-2019, 09:55 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:28 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 07:39 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-22-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-22-2019, 07:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 08:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-22-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-22-2019, 11:18 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-26-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 10:54 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-26-2019, 11:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 11:02 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-27-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 10:42 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-27-2019, 10:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Dill - 02-25-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-25-2019, 02:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-25-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 01:14 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 04:52 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-27-2019, 12:25 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-27-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Mike M (the other one) - 02-26-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - CJD - 02-25-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 09:08 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 09:54 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 02-26-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 11:37 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 11:44 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-26-2019, 12:20 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - GMDino - 02-26-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 02-26-2019, 01:50 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - fredtoast - 02-26-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Belsnickel - 02-26-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - Benton - 02-26-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - bfine32 - 03-04-2019, 11:00 PM
RE: Hoda Muthana - michaelsean - 03-05-2019, 11:33 AM

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