03-25-2019, 05:42 PM
(03-25-2019, 02:25 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: As far as proving socialism must fail, Venezuela did that completely on their own.
(03-25-2019, 03:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.
I still kind of object this description, as it is only one of many different definitions. This one is merely the historical one - but most western socialists to not define themselves that way or align with this goal.
I consider myself living in a socialist state and this state has not failed. Certainly not Venezuelan-style. We do kinda suck at soccer, but that's not due to socialism, as the US proves.
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