03-25-2019, 06:01 PM
(03-25-2019, 05:42 PM)hollodero Wrote: I still kind of object this description, as it is only one of many different definitions. This one is merely the historical one - but most western socialists to not define themselves that way or align with this goal.
I consider myself living in a socialist state and this state has not failed. Certainly not Venezuelan-style. We do kinda suck at soccer, but that's not due to socialism, as the US proves.
You can consider all you want, but you live in a capitalist nation with social programs. I use the definition that actually describes the word, not the one that most easily fits what I want to be true.