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Russian troops land in Venzuela
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(03-25-2019, 06:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You can consider all you want, but you live in a capitalist nation with social programs.  I use the definition that actually describes the word, not the one that most easily fits what I want to be true.  

Well, there's still a clear distinction between a socialist and a conservative/nationalist/populist/... and the word expresses as much. It doesn't express nationalization of all means of production, even though that was Marx' initial point. The meaning shifted throughout the centuries to a point where it doesn't make much actual sense to throw Venezuela at a modern day western socialist (who sometimes rather are called "social democrats") or use it as an example why their ideas are meant to fail. A guy like Sanders (or like western socialists in Europe) doesn't model his ideas along Venezuelan lines.
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RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - hollodero - 03-25-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 07:06 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 10:57 PM
RE: Russian troops land in Venzuela - Dill - 03-25-2019, 09:30 PM

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