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Trump admin bans Bump Stocks
(03-29-2019, 06:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: All laws should be a balance between protecting the public, punishing criminals and shielding the public from the abuse of said law.  One need look no further than the Patriot Act.  Do you have a problem with the government spying on you?  If you do, why do you want to help criminals by not allowing it?  I've asked you before if you would be in favor of mandatory fingerprint and DNA collection for everyone.  You said absolutely not.  Why not?  It would help tremendously in catching criminals if everyone's fingerprint and DNA were available to the police?  At the time you stated that such a law was ripe for abuse.  Consequently, you completely grasp the point I am making about a national registry, but you don't like the topic, or the presenter, so you either refuse to make the logical connection or you do and you're being contrary just for the fun of it.

First of all I do not remember that discussion at all.  Maybe you have me confused with someone else.  But this is still a false equivalency.

Guns are dangerous weapons.  Therefore we have to take special steps to insure public safety regarding their ownership and use.  There are lots of requirements that I may oppose for the general public but be in favor of for gun owners.  Gun owners are a special class of people who posses dangerous weapons.  Therefore treating them differently is justified for purposes of public safety.  I am not saying that every citizen has to register every item they own and be licensed to own/operate it.  I am just saying we need laws like this regarding deadly poisons, explosives, planes, cars, large machinery, guns, etc.  The fact that "arms" are listed in the Constitution and those other items are not does not change the need to protect public safety.  We already have many laws limiting Constitutional rights based on public safety.

I'll bet even you agree that there should be some registration/licensing requirements for citizens to buy stinger missiles or anti-aircraft guns.  But those are just "arms".  So why the accepted double standard?





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Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 12-19-2018, 07:55 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Yojimbo - 12-19-2018, 08:21 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 12-19-2018, 11:08 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Au165 - 12-20-2018, 09:43 AM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 12-20-2018, 02:31 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Au165 - 12-20-2018, 02:51 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - jj22 - 12-20-2018, 02:48 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 12-20-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 12-20-2018, 06:15 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 12-20-2018, 06:22 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 12-20-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-26-2019, 10:39 AM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-26-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 03-26-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 03-26-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Dill - 03-26-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-26-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Dill - 03-26-2019, 06:21 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-26-2019, 07:46 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - CJD - 03-26-2019, 07:53 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-27-2019, 01:38 AM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-27-2019, 09:16 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-27-2019, 09:34 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Dill - 03-27-2019, 06:18 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-28-2019, 12:25 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 12:29 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 12:26 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 06:43 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-28-2019, 10:51 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-28-2019, 10:55 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - GMDino - 03-28-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-28-2019, 11:07 AM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 06:44 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-28-2019, 06:55 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-28-2019, 11:26 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-28-2019, 07:23 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-29-2019, 12:37 AM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Dill - 03-28-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Beaker - 03-28-2019, 07:26 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-29-2019, 05:50 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-28-2019, 11:54 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Dill - 03-29-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-29-2019, 07:16 PM
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RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - bfine32 - 03-29-2019, 10:44 PM
RE: Trump admin bans Bump Stocks - Benton - 03-29-2019, 10:53 PM
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