05-24-2019, 09:40 AM
(05-23-2019, 11:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 1. And IMO choosing to be insolent against your university in something as public-facing as a Graduation Ceremony hurts business and those that walked out have no business (pun intended) making that decision.
They weren't insolent against the university. The protested against Pence.
(05-23-2019, 11:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 2. I thought you did in an earlier post (#49)
I see the issue. You are applying that statement into a broader discussion about the overall structure of the institutions when it was intended for a much more narrow focus regarding the reaction to expression. I apologize if my use of the word "only" in that narrow context confused you.
(05-23-2019, 11:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 3. Absolutely nothing wrong with a free exchange of ideas in academia; but there is a thing known as decorum. I think some in this thread are ignoring (funny that I'm the only one been accused of ignoring anything) the actual event in an attempt to push their ideology.
I think getting up and walking out before the speaker you are protesting against takes the podium is in good taste as a protest. It is freedom of expression, and it was done in a way that got the message across but did not actually interrupt the ceremony.
(05-23-2019, 11:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: My only assertion and the one that has been called into question is that the faculty members that defied the university in such a public forum should be disciplined. I've never stated what that discipline should be, but it should be reprimand at a minimum.
And my assertion is that reprimanding them is an action that stymies free expression in the university, which is a threat to the way high education is intended to function.
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