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(05-24-2019, 02:58 PM)Dill Wrote: You are saying that shared governance in a non-profit organization whose mission is to promote engaged, critical thinking is unrelated to federal, state and university statutes?  Just a way of "viewing" a university?  People who reference shared governance have their "head in the clouds" because its all really a business? But people who ignore statutes and tradition, repeatedly explained to them, are what--grounded? Non-ideological?

Imagine you are sitting in a business class in a university, as your professor is explaining to you the legal terms differentiating for-profit from non-profit organizations, and the guy next to you blurts out that "non-profit" is just an ideological liberal view of organizations. It's all still just employers and employees.

That student is you, if we take it a step further and add "shared governance" to non profit.  Here, as on other threads, law and organizational relations seem invisible to you. Still just employees disobeying employers, while "on the clock," regardless of facts--like the "employers" are just employees too.

Why do we have to imagine, why can't we use what actually happened?

What happened was not in the confines of the classroom, it was not a "walkout" when the decision was made to invite Pence,  it was insolence toward your employer at a public-facing event.

It's great you, Pat, and others know the inner working of the classroom and the educational dynamic in general. The only thing anyone learned on that day is that it is OK (at best) supported (at worst) to defy your organization during a time of celebration because of your personal views