Kavanaugh SCOTUS hearings

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(09-18-2019, 04:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is the text from the 5th Amendment: nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; IMO Kav has been put in jeopardy twice for the same offense. I realize it's easier to argue against the turn of phrase I chose to use than what the NYT and the 2020 Dems actually did.

You doubled down on the use of a legal principle outside of the legal system as a justification of dismissing new scrutiny of the FBI investigation, so commenting on its use is relevant. Also, the NYT and 2020 Dems have been discussed, so I am not sure what you're suggesting. 

Quote:These charges were known during his confirmation, the FBI found them unwarranted, he was confirmed, NYT runs an article that basically said "These people really meant what they said a year ago", 2020 Dems assign guilt "he should be impeached". Suggesting he should be impeached for something that has already been identified, investigated, determined to have no merit, and then confirmed by Congress IMO is the same "principle". I am not suggesting anyone still mad at him is breaking a constitutional law.

Did the FBI find them unwarranted? That's the question that those scrutinizing the process want answered. As I mentioned to you before when you compared this to a conspiracy theory, the White House has the power to set specific limits on the FBI investigation as it was not a criminal investigation but rather an extended background investigation. If they were not authorized to, the FBI would have been unable to speak to anyone outside of Ramirez, Ford, and Judge. It would explain why they opted to not talk to the 25 people Ramirez identified. It also does not suggest there was any determination that her accusations were without merit by the agents investigating it.

NBC reported last year that they were hearing that the investigation had been given a strict limit in its scope, with agents only allowed to talk to specific people. The book the NYT report is adapted from seemingly corroborated this.

Confusing this process with an extensive criminal investigation would certainly make it seem like legal principles should apply, but it was not an actual criminal investigation. 

I don't think having an independent look at what the actual scope and process of the investigation was is an outrageous request. If the White House did not limit it, it would further vindicate Kavanaugh to have this confirmed.