Trump booed at World Series

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(10-29-2019, 01:27 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: If you're comparing the rally goers and the Nats fans, then absolutely that's a comparison that can be made. I just think the criticism is lobbed at Trump not the rally masses, so I'm not sure what hypocrisy there really is.

(10-29-2019, 04:03 PM)Dill Wrote: Speaking of "nuances."

Do you think the chants of "lock him up" were all direct expressions of a desired outcome, as were chants of "lock her up" at Trump rallies?

Probably some would like to see Trump locked up. But is it possible that the intent of many could have been ironic--the real subtext being "how does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot?"  Or "how does it make YOU feel?"

So, Dill's answer is mine to the Baltimorian question. Those at baseball clearly referenced, or say mimicked, the rally goers, so there's the connection to them and their behaviour.

And it's possibly more irony (or mockery) than anything - as I said there are nuances, and I do not equate the two groups 1:1 - but in a certain context that does not matter too much. It's not just about what it is with all nuances - it's also about how it's percieved. Every person on the fence of leaving Trump becaue of his and his supporter's conduct now has a reason to reiterate that they are all the same left or right... and it sure might look like that to such a person, does it not?

Both sides sport a mob demanding jailtime for a political opponent. Of course one of the nuances would probably be that those who demand it for Trump have more basis in fact for that. Also he started it, he sure deserved a taste of his own medicine, I do not dispute all that. But it's still behaviour that is spooky, and how that can not be seen as losing some moral highground is baffling to me. I just can repeat it, one can either be appalled by a certain behaviour (like participating in a "lock her up" chant) or display the same behaviour at the next best chance - but with doing the latter, the first goes out of the window. And a similar logic applies for denouncing the rally goers for their chants and at the same time cheering for the baseball chanters. @hypocrisy question, that is the hypocrisy.