2020 Presidential Election

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(01-15-2020, 11:24 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: And now #NeverWarren is trending on social media with "progressives"--I put quotes there because you never know with some of them--are saying they wouldn't vote for Warren even if she was the nominee. People are so ***** dumb.

People on social media are so ***** dumb. 

:andy:

Still convinced that social media is more of a concern for the downfall of human civilization than nukes. Lol

(01-15-2020, 12:03 PM)Benton Wrote: Agreed.

But. I don't think he'd beat Trump.

Trump has turned off a lot of evangelicals, but he's still a straight white male. Sure, a SWM on his fourthish marriage, paid off pron stars, defrauded charities, lies constantly, advocates violence, cuts social safety nets for the poor and hungry, cheats on his taxes, abuses women, mocks the handicap... but he's a SWM. And that's... sorta... closer to Jesus than a guy who didn't do all those other things, but is, well, ya know... not straight.



Seriously, that was the conversation I had with someone the other day on why he wouldn't vote for Pete over Trump. To him, Pete was a bigger sinner. 

A large chunk of Trump voters voted for Trump just because his opposition was a woman. If Pete gets the nomination, a large chunk of Trump voters will be voting for him just because his opposition is gay. 

Trump gets the evangelical vote not because he's closer to Jesus as a SWM, but because he'll put in judges that align with the evangelical vote's priorities.

Lets say you believe abortion is murder...

Guy A: Is personally a shithead, but will make moves towards ending the murder of 600,000-800,000 per year. (Or more depending on your view of birth control.)

Guy B: Is a decent guy, but will make it easier than ever to murder 600,000-800,000 per year. (Or more depending on your view on birth control.)

...you would clearly ignore that Guy A is a trash human being if it meant saving ~3 million lives over a 4 year period.

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Ehhhhh... that doesn't seem true. You're going identity politics to try to find a hot take rather than accept the way more simple explanation that:

A large chunk of Trump voters voted for Trump just because he was running under the Republican ticket.

It's that simple. Just like how a large chunk of Clinton voters voted for Clinton because she was running under the Democrat ticket. Has nothing to do with women, gays, white, or anything else. There's a large contingent of people who just won't vote outside party lines. They walk into an election booth and vote straight down their party line on their ballot.