07-30-2020, 01:21 PM
(07-30-2020, 12:56 PM)Dill Wrote: The broken judgment which put Trump in office was developed over two decades and won't end when he leaves.
Ahh, so the problem is that GOP leaning voters have faulty judgment.
Quote:People at one location, Seattle, are trying out some "radical" proposals that we won't find on the Dem platform at the convention. "One council member suggested" is not evidence of any sea change in the national party, especially if no one takes the suggestion. And I don't find cutting police budgets "more radical" than sending federal officers into cities against the wishes of local government, or using the military against peaceful protestors.
Let us please not insult each others intelligence, or that of anyone else reading, by pretending that this is a phenomena linked solely to "one location".
Quote:Until that "one council member" becomes president of the United States, then one certainly cannot make "a much better case" that some "far left" has infiltrated a moderate left with consequences for a national party, as once can make the case that the fringe right has "enmeshed" itself with the Republican party and produced a president and control of the Senate.
One certainly can as the issue is hardly confined to that one person. I suppose we can wait and see the Democratic party platform once released and revisit this then.
[/quote]As I read your CA assembly proposal, it is that 95% of funds allocated for newly proposed juvenile assessment programs must go to "community-based organizations AND OTHER public agencies and departments that are not law enforcement." It does not refer to all money allocated for juvenile probation.[/quote]
Right, just 95% of it. The budget is renewed annually in July. The study of the bill done by those who would be affected by it flat out stated that this would gut their juvenile probation functions. Of course, they have a bias in this regard, but no proponent of the bill even attempted to state otherwise. Also, it's hardly the only radical proposal currently being debated in the CA state assembly. I'm pretty sure it's more than "one person" there too.
Here's the other issue, and it's one you can pin on the GOP as well. Aside from the fact that we all known it's far more than "one person" or "one location" the other problem is that these radical proposals get virtually zero push back from what we would all describe as moderates. Biden did state he doesn't want to defund the police, but aside from saying something along the lines of "I don't agree with all of that" these radical proposals are met with silence. No push back, no stating that this is a radical proposal.
Like I said, we can revisit this once the Democratic party platform is released. Then we can see how far the proverbial one person's influence has spread.
