2020 Election

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(08-16-2020, 03:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Was waiting for this.  Under this definition the vast, vast majority of "mass shootings" are gang related.  Harken back to my previous point on this matter.  When most people think of a mass shooting they picture Parkland or the Mandalay Bay shooting, not some asshat gang members dumping on a crowd of people.




Ahh, this little nugget of treash.  Look at the criteria they used to define a "school shooting"

The shooting must involve at least one person being shot (not including the shooter).


The shooting must occur on school property, which includes but is not limited to buildings, athletic fields, parking lots, stadiums and buses.


We included accidental discharge of a firearm as long as the first two parameters are met, except in instances where the sole shooter is law enforcement or a security officer.


We included injuries sustained from BB guns, since the Consumer Product Safety Commission has identified them as potentially lethal.

When you include BB guns and negligent discharges as a "school shooting" you invalidate any point you're trying to make.



There is a problem.  The problem is criminals killing people.  Simple solution, lock them up for a long time.  Deny them bail.  Don't release them OR so they can keep killing.

https://cwbchicago.com/2020/05/more-men-charged-with-murder-while-free-on-affordable-bail-records-show.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2020/07/recognizance-bond-for-man-accused-of-having-gun-outside-gang-funeral-saturday.html

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/nyc-released-attempted-murderer-with-no-bail-feds-say-he-then-committed-three-more-shootings/

If you're concerned about people being murdered, and I believe you are, then focus on the people who actually commit the murders and advocate for their lengthy incarceration.  Don't release them early like AB109 in CA does, don't release criminals from jail or prison because of Covid, make them wear a mask like the rest of us.  You want to save lives, here's the way to actually do it, and it doesn't restrict the rights of law abiding citizens.

Good points.

Doesn’t change my original thought that our country has a problem with mass shootings.

And the ones that do them usually have some red flags. Reactionary policing allows the crimes to happen. I’m not afraid of trying a different approach to prevent them.

When I see some guns getting confiscated for no valid reason I’ll be with you claiming infringement.

I was looking for the part in the constitution where it talked about high capacity magazines and assault rifles but I guess I skimmed over it.

If we are allowed to arm ourselves to equally defend against own government then I want a nuclear sub and some trident nukes