08-16-2020, 05:16 PM
(08-16-2020, 04:23 PM)Dill Wrote: Sure. Gun control--one of key historical indicators that a liberal democracy is going illiberal. As if democracies could exist WITHOUT a free press, independent judiciary, and free and fair elections--but not WITH gun control.
VERY interesting disconnect.
You'll have to find the posts in which I advocated against a free press, independent judiciary and fair and free elections. Then you'd have the basis for making this argument against me. I'll wait.
Quote:LOL So if Saddam Hussein had been reading his American history, he'd never have been able to impose a tyrannical state on the armed Iraqi populace. Or maybe if that armed populace had read it? No tradition of "personal liberty"?
I had no idea that private citizens in Saddam's Iraq had such free access to firearms. In any event, see my response to Hollodero for a further argument against this type of point.
Quote:Same story for Afghanistan under the Taliban, though they never quite controlled the Northeast. Had a tradition of "personal liberty"? Check. Italy under Mussolini--tyrannical state or not?
Wait, Afghanistan has widespread civilian firearms ownership and a tradition of personal liberty? Fascinating. Also, did Italy have widespread civilian access to firearms? I'm anxious for your reply.