2020 Election

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(08-17-2020, 09:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yeah, and I have zero time for anyone with that absolutist, "you're either with us or against us" attitude.  I'll vote third party again because I don't like either candidate.  Not that it matters in Till vote for anything with a D next to their name CA.

Oh, right... it really doesn't matter.
One thing that interests me about that. How comes you can live in California and time and again have to face the reality that your vote really does not matter, that all your electors will turn blue, unrelentingly, and yet you do not come to hate the electoral college. I find that surprising.

(08-17-2020, 09:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'm constantly intrigued by this notion.  People seem to forget that law enforcement and military are just people like themselves.  To assume they'd blindly follow a tyrant simply because of what they do for a living is odd to me.

Yeah well, this might be a matter of perspective or even one of definition.

I just imagine if Erdogan and Turkey first impose an absurd and preposterous burden (what was it in the US, funding pensions 75 years in advance? something like that) on an otherwise profitable post office. By that just accidentally gaining a governmental stranglehold over it, because hey they need some funding now with these totally unprecedented laws. And then, an election comes, and Erdogan fears mail in ballots might just undo him. So he runs a presidential propaganda campaign against mail in ballots, full of lies, false claims, accusations of fraud, wild conspiracies, that in his words are true everywhere but Fl...istanbul for there he has a buddy governor and he might just win there.
And then he remembers the post office stranglehold and that he has a buddy running things there, a guy who has shares with post office competitors, who gave him lots of money, who just loves him some Recep Tayyip. Now isn't that nice, that sure helps things along. Let's just not fund the post office properly, just let them struggle, sabotage maybe a bit and put some machines away, make sure there is doubt ballots will even arrive in time. See who's sending in mail ballots now. Whos get lost, whos never arrive. Might seem proper that mail in ballots can't be done at all, right? So sorry folks, also sorry to all the people that didn't get their medicine and stuff because of that. Sweet, right? Now Erdogan sure wouldn't be as dumb as to lay out that plan openly, in fact Erdogan might never try that in the first place. There's a great chance there'd be mass protests on the street.

Which leads me to a) How are Americans so chill about that and b) of course, now I don't know if that is a tyrannical system, but it sure is an authoriatarian one, one that undermines all american ideals of democracy. That's not me interpreting stuff. But hey, maybe that still is not quite tyrannical yet. An armed populace sure doesn't do anything about it though.