08-19-2020, 06:59 PM
(08-18-2020, 10:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Well, a person has to become President before being able to do anything, no?
Sure. So the argument for the EC is that it is less likely a person could be elected president that could then as president target states' rights.
I mean, sure, maybe. I guess in your shoes, I'd still rather be annoyed, but hey I am not.
(08-18-2020, 10:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No system is foolproof, we completely agree. But for this system to fail int he manner described would require large scale collapse. If such a collapse within the system occurs we'll have many more problems than just that to deal with.
Yeah, this is probably true, but still it's a bit of a sad argument. Also I'd say a system does not have to fail with a bang, it can also fail incrementally. A kind of erosion. Of which this post office scam could very well be seen as an example.
(08-18-2020, 10:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Again, we agree, it's not Trump. It's also not the pro criminal anti law enforcement position of the Democratic party either. Like I've been saying, although not in these exact words, it's almost a literal Sophie's Choice.
Well, while I fully understand that someone could see Democrats as too lenient towards criminals, I would not call them "pro criminal", or, in the same sense, "anti-law enforcement". I consider those terms simplified exaggerations. Second thing though, imho the kind of ship that needs righting is about preserving democratic norms and values, and I do not doubt that Biden is the only candidate who respects democracy and the institution and free press and all those things that I at least actually meant when talking about shiprighting. I'd maybe also argue those law enforcement topics are - in comparison - a minor issue, but mainly I'd argue that they are a different issue.