2020 Election

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(09-13-2020, 01:33 PM)Dill Wrote: Sure. That's what I care about.

But that's because I care about the rioting, police brutality, racism, etc. Little can be done about that while he is in office blocking reform and fomenting a cultural civil war.

I also think the president should be a person of good character who thinks there is a greater good than himself, a role model for youth who understands the gravity of the office, is respected internationally, picks wise counselors and listens to them, and can unite the country by stepping up to lead in times of national crisis.

He should also know something of world history--especially the history of US foreign policy--international law, how the government actually works, and respect and honor the sacrifices for the nation made by military members and their families.

He should not collude with a cable news channel to advance conspiracy theories and smear opponents, and to generate public support for his abuses of power--the firing of whistle blowers, the corruption of government departments like the DOJ, Post office, and DHS to protect his re-election interests. Defenses of Trump degrade standards of public behavior and discourse--political, scientific, and civil.

I would have opposed any of Trump's Republican primary opponents--on the issues. But none of them would fall under the above objections. That the election is as close as it is points to a problem larger than Trump, which will continue after he is gone. But it will be worse after another four years of him. 

So yes, Trump out. above EVERYTHING ELSE. As the never Trumpers say--nation before party.

As I recall it The Senate brought a reform bill to the floor and the Dems wouldn't even discuss it. 

Trump has made mistakes throughout this pandemic, but he doesn't hold a monopoly. The law Makers of the country are just pointing fingers while doing nothing except getting their hair did and calling people killers. 

As to the riots I'm not sure what else you want him to do. He's offered federal assistance to any city that wants it.l

He backed off in Portland so the riots would stop. How'd that work out?

But as you say. Folks will create their own reality