10-08-2020, 09:54 PM
(10-08-2020, 09:36 PM)Benton Wrote: Honestly, I don't recall a lot of specific cases in that thread, outside of your estimate that less than 7% of all violence came from the right.
Actually the 7% number is the amount of "peaceful protests" that included violence/vandalism and arson. (If you buy the numbers that is. Portland alone would seem to skew that number up) Who committed the violence isn't specified, although I don't know that a lot of far right people are at these types of protests. The arrests in Portland and Kenosha were predominantly, if not all, far left people.
Quote:I'd put the number of protestors at 93%, sure, but the violence? I think that's a lot more balanced. Like, you know, some militia nutters trying to kidnap a governor.
To be technical, a conspiracy is not actual violence. Certainly not like field goal kicking a dude in the face, setting buildings on fire or throwing molotov cocktails at police.
Quote:Among who?
Not the justice department. Not the POTUS. Not the GOP. Not GOP-centric media. To them, it's all left.
Sure, they have an agenda. They are not alone in this.
Quote:And that's the issue. You've got people trying to say 'it's both sides' and one side saying 'it's all their fault.'
I agree it's an issue and it's certainly not a one sided issue.
Quote:No, it doesn't. Not any more than it gives McGrath the right to say McConnell encourages militias to kidnap elected officials of opposing parties (which she hasn't as she's not a fear mongering sack of crap like Mitch).
When has McConnell ever made excuses for right wing militia violence?
Quote:Some do. Just as some media mitigates right leaning violence. I believe Fox has already crowned Rittenhouse their Teen of the Year, a kid who was "all-American" and just trying to "make his town safe" (even though it wasn't even his town).
Not a great example for you to use, seeing as the video evidence, and neutral first hand accounts, entirely support a self defense scenario.
Quote:There's enough variety of the truth these days that people can't fall back on "the media." Not when "the media" has just as many pro-right outlets as there are pro-left.
Outside of Fox there isn't a single right leaning mainstream television news source. CNN, MSNBC, PBS, etc. all lean to the left to varying degrees. The majority of mainstream newspapers lean left to varying degrees, the Wall Street Journal's editorial section and the NY Post being the only major exceptions. We both agree the violence from either spectrum is a problem. But acting like they're both covered to the same extent by the media is blatantly false.
