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(12-06-2020, 12:39 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It's a bit post, and there's a lot wrong.... but here's a couple of the most important....

1. It's a whole lot easier to be a division of playoff teams when everyone gets 2 free wins per year off the Bengals. The Browns would be 6-5 if the Bengals won. Saying teams are good because they beat you (a team that is bad) is bad logic.

2. The Eagles have the 16th ranked scoring defense (and get to play 6 games against the worst division in NFL history). The Chargers have the 25th scoring defense in the NFL.

3. Alex Smith has a career 14 TD/2 INT in 7 playoff games, throwing for an average of ~250 yards per game. In the 5 times he's been to the playoffs, he has only struggled 1 time. If you took his average playoff stats and put them to a 16 game season, you would have a 32 TD/4.5 INT, ~4,000 yard season... and that's against playoff teams.

4. Your math is wrong somewhere, you should recheck it. The Bengals scored 21.3 points per game under Burrow (26th). Even if you don't want to count the Washington game (which you should, Burrow threw 34 times before getting hurt, and you already counted their defense earlier in your post) they still only scored 22.7 points per game (24th). Both of those are worse than the 2011 of 19th.

So much wrong in this post, but I will try to keep it organized:

Your first point:  1. It's a whole lot easier to be a division of playoff teams when everyone gets 2 free wins per year off the Bengals. The Browns would be 6-5 if the Bengals won. Saying teams are good because they beat you (a team that is bad) is bad logic.


Two free wins a year?  Burrow put up 30+ points on them and it took a last second TD to beat the Bengals.  Discrediting Cleveland because they beat the Bengals twice is stupid.  They only lost to Baltimore, pitt, and Las Vegas.  You might not want to admit it, but the Browns are very good.

Your second point:  2. The Eagles have the 16th ranked scoring defense (and get to play 6 games against the worst division in NFL history). The Chargers have the 25th scoring defense in the NFL.

Philly has the 14th ranked scoring defense, and they are 3rd in the league in sacks.  The Chargers lost their best player after playing the Bengals, but their defense has ranked historically higher when he was playing.  

Your third point:  3. Alex Smith has a career 14 TD/2 INT in 7 playoff games, throwing for an average of ~250 yards per game. In the 5 times he's been to the playoffs, he has only struggled 1 time. If you took his average playoff stats and put them to a 16 game season, you would have a 32 TD/4.5 INT, ~4,000 yard season... and that's against playoff teams.

Exactly, and how many games did he win?  He doesn't take chances when needed and is too conservative, something the QB rating rewards.  I guess you knew more than KC when they went for Mahommes and benched him.  Dumb move, KC. 

Your fourth point:  
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4. Your math is wrong somewhere, you should recheck it. The Bengals scored 21.3 points per game under Burrow (26th). Even if you don't want to count the Washington game (which you should, Burrow threw 34 times before getting hurt, and you already counted their defense earlier in your post) they still only scored 22.7 points per game (24th). Both of those are worse than the 2011 of 19th.
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You are correct about the PPG.  I don't know what I left out, but 22.7 is correct.  So they ranked 19th in the league in PPG and the Bengals would have been 24th this year.  I still believe you have to take in to account the level of competition this year, and the matchups of a team like LA with Bosa and Philly with the #3 sack team in the NFL early.  Burrow scored 30 plus points four times in 8 games, the 2011 team only did it twice all year.  And the other point everyone seems to be forgetting is how much easier it is on an offense when you don't have to be one-dimensional and your defense gets stops on occasion.