Browns interested in McCarron per Mary Kay Cabot

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(04-15-2017, 06:57 PM)BigSeph Wrote: OK, cherrypicker......

I went directly to pro football reference, put Brady's stats and AJM's stats into a spreadsheet, Brady is listed above and AJM below.  I highlighted rate stats were AJM was better or equal to Brady in green.  This is a lot of green-



Including Tom Brady's 15th, 16th, 17th games of NFL experience after seeing defenses for a year and comparing that to AJM's handful of games is disingenuous.

You don't calculate sack "average" based on games, you calculate it based on dropbacks.

And you ignore the fact that perhaps Tom Brady was sacked because Tom Brady was inexperienced.  His sack % went from 9.0 to 4.9 in the second year.  Unless of course you think the Patriots offensive line just "got better."

You're comparing a NFL QB with 5 years of experience and an NFL QB with 1 full year+playoffs of experience to a QB with 4+ games of NFL experience.  And you only want to talk about the sacks.

And you can't even talk about sacks properly.

What do you have to say about all the rate stats in green?

The game has evolved in 14 years. But anyway.

Again, talked about how the offensive line got better. But they weren't good his first year nor the years prior.

Brady didn't have a reliable offense like the Bengals did. Brady had Troy Brown and Antowain Smith. Troy Brown only eclipsed 1000 yards receiving one time in his 15 year career. And it was in 2001.
Smith eclipsed 1000 rushing yards twice in his 9 year career.

Now, would you say the way the NFL is played now is different since 2001?

Also, who had the better offense? Would you rather have an offense with Antowain Smith, Troy Brown, David Patten, Terry Glenn, and Jermaine Wiggins?
Or would you rather have Jeremy Hill, AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, and Tyler Eifert?

McCarron averaged less than 6 yards per pass attempt in his final 3 games.

The thing also is Brady struggled quite a bit early, but by his 3rd game he had already surpassed 300 pass yards. McCarron has only surpassed 200 passing yards twice in his five games. With the kind of offense we had.

Also, are we going to ignore that McCarron had less that 100 yards passing until 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter in the playoffs?

McCarron is nothing like Brady. It's hard to compare players from different eras. And yes. The early 2000's is a different era.

Tom Brady having a 86.5 QB rating in 2001 would rank him 6th. If that were 2015? That ranks him 25th. Right below Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I can also throw in another player. Matt Cassel.

His completion percentage was 63.4%. TD percentage was a 4.1. INT percentage was 2.1. Yards per attempt average was ALSO 7.2 like McCarron. AVA was 7.0. But his Y/C was at 11.3. Rating was 89.4. But he averaged 110 more YPG than McCarron did. Sack rate was also a 8.3.

So Cassel had more epxerience, so a bigger size sample, and had very identical  numbers that McCarron had. Some were better, some were worse. Except had more games, more wins, and more sample size.