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Foles vs McCarron
(01-26-2018, 01:39 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Tell that to the Jags, Vikings, or Eagles.


No one's really sung their praises, but they sure haven't given the parts of the team that we rely on any real criticism either. The way many have talked, it's as if Dalton was the only one that played poorly.


Much of the critisim is justified, true but Dalton has sucked more than anyone else? Really? So, in your opinion, an average player playing below average is more deserving of criticism than an elite defense playing below average?

But, thanks for proving my point how Dalton is held to a different standard than the rest of the team by some people. ThumbsUp

Yes. 100x YES. The QB playing poorly is the WORST position to do so by miles. Why do you weight a QBs performance equally to, say, a LB or CB of S? A QB's mistakes puts his defense in poor positions. A CAB has a bad game and it doesn't effect every snap of the defense. Other guys can still make plays. A QB having a bad game typically crushes an offense. Let alone if he craps his pants.....

See Bengals vs. Chargers 2014. Bengals D had it close at half time and the Bengals were leading. AD comes out of the half with 4.... 4 straight turnovers on short drives. Then people want to blame the D?

Nobody is blaming AJM for the Steelers playoff loss, right? He got better in clutch moments as the game went on and did enough to win. When the plays needed made, AJM made them. Hill, Burfict and Jones then let the team down. That was a much different scenario than a QB stinking all game (or large portion) and taking a loss, like the 2014 Chargers game where Andy gave the guys around him no shot. Even in one of the Texans losses he missed a throw to a wide open AJ that would have probably won the game.

Nobody reasonable is blaming Andy for the 2015 loss to Indy. There was no team left. It's not like people expect him to be a solo act. Just not a imploding mess, which he has been in a huge majority of big games.
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