Foles vs McCarron

[Shake n Blake]

(02-05-2018, 01:10 PM)Wyche Wrote: Didn't Chip run a lot of RPO?

(02-05-2018, 01:14 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I think he did. He ran it Oregon and I think people bashed him because he was going to do it in the NFL. That and he is a fruitcake.
Didn't Lazor say that we would see us do more of the RPO because Dalton can run it?

Beat me to it, but yeah I remember him doing it a lot in college...some in the pros but not as much. His offense was still very up-tempo.

(02-05-2018, 01:51 PM)Au165 Wrote: Foles beat the Patriots defense, a bad one at that, he didn't "beat Brady". Brady outperformed Foles last night but the narrative will be Foles was the better player...he wasn't. In the end Foles is a system QB reliant on a spread attack and a strong running game. We saw this play out before when Kelly was there and when Foles went to a different system it didn't work out. The Cassell comparison is more than fair, Matt Cassell was a system QB who went 11-5 as a back up QB thrust into starting only to be exposed outside of that system and culture. 


Someone will take on Foles, but Foles is so system dependent you better make sure you are willing to go to this spread attack and support him with a strong running attack. Again, I think he fits the Bills for these reasons but we will see. Case Keenum is literally the same guy and someone will over pay him too. Journeymen QBs rarely just become great starters for multiple years after traveling around. You tend to always revert back to the "back of your card".

1. I think Foles at least matched Brady last night, which kinda "neutralized" him and made it a "who has the better TEAM" kinda game (as opposed to who has the better QB). The Eagles are superior everywhere else (other than TE), and it kinda showed.

2. To the "back of your card" comment, Foles' card includes one of the best seasons of all-time, so maybe this was him reverting to the back of his card? The season under Fisher is looking kinda fluky. He was also fantastic in 2 appearances in 2016 playing for Reid in KC.

3. Aren't almost all QB's system guys to an extent? Look at Brees once he hooked up with Peyton. Big Ben had mixed results (especially early) depending on coordinator. Dalton played like a different guy for Hue. I even have a feeling that Brady would already be retired if not for the system they run. They do an excellent job disguising that wet noodle of an arm he's had for the last several years. They get guys open, and Brady does an excellent job finding them...but if you need him to throw a guy open or needle one in there, it ain't happening very often.

I would say that some QB's are more reliant on system than others though, certainly...and I agree Foles looks like a great fit for Buffalo. He needs a good offensive mind to bring the best out of him, ala Pederson or Reid. I think anyone with a mid-level QB should be looking for offensive minded coaches to bring out the best in their QB. A mid-tier guy can play at an elite level in the right system.