02-05-2018, 03:28 PM
(02-05-2018, 03:16 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Beat me to it, but yeah I remember him doing it a lot in college...some in the pros but not as much. His offense was still very up-tempo.
1. I think Foles at least matched Brady last night, which kinda "neutralized" him and made it a "who has the better TEAM" kinda game (as opposed to who has the better QB). The Eagles are superior everywhere else (other than TE), and it kinda showed.
2. To the "back of your card" comment, Foles' card includes one of the best seasons of all-time, so maybe this was him reverting to the back of his card? The season under Fisher is looking kinda fluky. He was also fantastic in 2 appearances in 2016 playing for Reid in KC.
3. Aren't almost all QB's system guys to an extent? Look at Brees once he hooked up with Peyton. Big Ben had mixed results (especially early) depending on coordinator. Dalton played like a different guy for Hue. I even have a feeling that Brady would already be retired if not for the system they run. They do an excellent job disguising that wet noodle of an arm he's had for the last several years. They get guys open, and Brady does an excellent job finding them...but if you need him to throw a guy open or needle one in there, it ain't happening very often.
I would say that some QB's are more reliant on system than others though, certainly...and I agree Foles looks like a great fit for Buffalo. He needs a good offensive mind to bring the best out of him, ala Pederson or Reid. I think anyone with a mid-level QB should be looking for offensive minded coaches to bring out the best in their QB. A mid-tier guy can play at an elite level in the right system.
-I mean Brady threw for 500 yards under duress with no ints where as Foles threw for 370 and did have an int. I would say Brady did have the better night, again contrary to the narrative. If I told you one guy threw for 25% more yards and had no INTS compared to 1 INT without any other context you are probably saying the first one was better.
-Not sure what season was one of the "best all-time", he has never thrown over 3,000 yards in a season. He had a season of 27 TDs and 2 INTs in a spread attack, but outside of that one anomaly he has been a 1:1 int to TD guy most his career.
- There is a difference between being a system QB and gimmick QB, so I apologize in that yea basic passing concepts in systems will highlight guys strengths and it has for many. Foles is a gimmick QB that is relying on a rarely used college gimmick to give him easy reads. The whole RPO thing will get exposed like most gimmicks do in the NFL. After the Raiders game this year when he got exposed they went all in on the RPO setup. Now he made some great throws last night, but if you think that's the guy your getting someone is going to have to explain why his only other good year was using the same gimmick with Kelly.
Again, if someone wants to build their team around Foles and RPO they can. The issue will be defenses will catch up and if he can't win dropping back in a pocket and scanning defenses without the gimmick he will fail...like he did in St. Louis.
