03-09-2018, 01:13 PM
(03-09-2018, 12:44 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I strongly disagree.
Most NFL fans care about winning. When another team is consistently winning a lot more games than them they don't really buy the argument that is so popular around here that "It is better to lose a lot more games than go to the playoffs with Marvin Lewis"
For 9 years from '08 to '16 the Jags had zero winning seasons and averaged LESS THAN 5 WINS PER YEAR. There is no way in hell you could convince them that they were better off than the Bengals who were going to the playoffs 6 times. No other fans in the league love hating their owner more than winning games.
Are we really "consistently winning a lot more games" than most teams? Outside of that 5 year stretch, how consistent has Marvin been?
8-8
8-8
11-5
8-8
7-9
4-11-1
10-6
4-12
6-9-1
7-9
That's our records outside of the 5 year stretch. More proof that the 5 year run was a fluke and not sustainable. Fans have good reason to not like Mike Brown. He's a giant anchor on this team. Even you and bfine have admitted as much. The man is a positivity-sucking black hole. Let Jags fans get familiar with that man + his history and let them know there's zero hope he'd ever sell. Then see how many would want to trade places.
I have a feeling you'd be surprised. Outside of the Browns, if I were a fan of any other team, I'd feel more hopeful about seeing a championship in my lifetime. Even when we have the talent to make a deep run, we have a coach whose choking has reached legendary status, and Mike Brown won't spend to help Marv get over the top. It feels like a hopeless situation.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
