03-04-2019, 04:39 PM
(03-04-2019, 04:33 PM)Whodey614 Wrote: AJ Green as a rookie is WAY better than Christian Kirk and 36-year-old Larry Fitzgerald.
David Johnson was very underused as I already pointed out. Still effective, but nowhere near his potential.
Funny how you call it Rosen throwing a "bunch of interceptions" when he only threw 1 more than Dalton did in his rookie year. The defense played a huge part as to why we made the playoffs that year. Let's not have revisionist history. Compare the '11 Bengals defense that ranked 7th in total defense and 9th in scoring defense to the '18 Cardinals that ranked 20th in total defense and 26th in scoring defense.
The OL was bad when Palmer was the QB. It regressed, even more, the next season.
Dalton didn't walk into a good team just like Rosen. Don't get me wrong, he had a good rookie year but it helps when you have a star WR to go with a good OC and a defense that'll keep you in games. Rosen had none of that.
No, he wasn't better as a rookie than Fitzgerald was last year. As hard as people find it to understand there is a lot of nuance to running routes in the NFL and Fitzgerald is still one of the bets, hence why he had over 1k yards two seasons ago. AJ year 2 sure, but AJ year 1 was still raw as heck.
Under utilized or not they basically had a 1k yard rusher so this point is moot.
1 more interception with half the TD's? sure. The defense did not make him throw interceptions and not TD's or for that matter eat 40 sacks.
It was bad when Palmer was there and was the same line yet Palmer ate almost half as many sacks per drop back. Although Blaine Gabbert when he was in ate sacks at a similar rate to Rosen, which proves my point. You brought this on yourself claiming Rosen was good at moving and keeping eyes down field....he wasn't.
Rosen had historically one of the worst rookie years ever however you want to slice it, the Cardinals were not one of the historically worst teams ever. Take it for what you will, but the guy is not good and was probably over drafted coming out. He predetermines throws and can't read defenses. He is slow to process blitzes which leads to his sacks. He throws a pretty ball with adequate arm strength but he is not NFL ready, not even at a level Dalton was coming out.
Look at it this way, Murray isn't as clean of a prospect coming out as Mayfield yet the Cardinals will give up on Rosen a year in to take him and essentially take a bath on Rosen in terms of return. Why? My guess is those in the building know they messed up and now it's about trying to recover.
