Poll: Why not keep Andy
I'm concerned about Mike Brown's savings
Mike will use the saved money to invest in the oline
We'll get a pick in the first 3 rounds
We owe it to Andy
Andy will be made if we don't
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Why not keep Andy as a backup?
(04-27-2020, 06:07 PM)McC Wrote: Well, they've got a little over 7 mil of cap space right now without any of the rookies signed.  I seem to remember 11 mil is about what it costs for rookies.  How is it possible to wait until TC to do anything about Dalton?

Holding onto Dalton at this point seems like the opposite of doing right by him to me.

Good point and I really wasn't even considering our cap situation. Not sure why the pro-keep Andy crowd isn't acknowledging this.

(04-29-2020, 10:43 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: “Amazing” is quite generous wrt Dalton. He had 1 partial season out of 9 that he was above average.

And the OL being a weakness is all the more reason Burrow is the better choice. One of his biggest strengths is extending plays, and making things happen off script.

This simply isn't true. Even if you go off of passer rating alone. Then if you consider other things such as wins, TD's and yards, then it's definitely not true. It's fine to bash Andy for the last few years. He did not respond well to having a bad o-line. That said, his run from 2011-2016 was overall "above average".

2011: Had one of the better rookie seasons ever, especially considering the lockout.
2012: 13th out of 32 qualifiers in rating, 31 total TD's.
2013: 15th out of 37 qualifiers in rating, 35 total TD's.
2015: 2nd out of 35 qualifiers in rating, 28 total TD's in 12 starts.
2016: 15th out of 30 qualifiers in rating, 22 total TD's.

Even if you just look at passer rating alone, he had 4 seasons that were above average, and that's not counting his rookie season, which was pretty fantastic. Burrow's my guy and I want Dalton gone, but I can still appreciate what Dalton was able to accomplish in the first half of his career.

This does not mean in any way/shape/form that we should keep him. As a mentor or "competition" or any other reason. It's time to move on.
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Why not keep Andy as a backup? - bfine32 - 01-19-2020, 08:44 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - treee - 01-19-2020, 08:57 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 04-28-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-28-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - treee - 04-26-2020, 09:28 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:03 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 10:39 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - TKUHL - 01-20-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:18 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:29 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:41 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-20-2020, 12:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-19-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - CJD - 01-19-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-20-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-20-2020, 01:04 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-20-2020, 03:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-20-2020, 07:34 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - HuDey - 01-21-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - HuDey - 01-21-2020, 03:52 PM
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RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-21-2020, 03:27 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 01-24-2020, 02:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Aland - 01-21-2020, 04:11 PM
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RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Tony - 02-10-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Tony - 02-11-2020, 03:29 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 04-25-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - J24 - 04-25-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - J24 - 04-25-2020, 10:35 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 10:47 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 11:47 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:18 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:44 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:48 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:57 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 11:49 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:41 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:05 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:15 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 05:03 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 05:28 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:08 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:04 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:12 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:16 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:31 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:34 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 10:04 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:20 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:50 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 12:25 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 06:27 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 08:39 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 10:01 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 10:18 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 10:30 PM
Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 10:32 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-26-2020, 10:35 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 11:45 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-26-2020, 11:59 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-27-2020, 12:41 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020, 10:20 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020, 11:40 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020, 06:55 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 04-27-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-28-2020, 01:42 AM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-29-2020, 12:57 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-29-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 04-28-2020, 10:34 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Shake n Blake - 04-29-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - JSR18 - 04-29-2020, 06:32 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-29-2020, 10:39 PM
RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-30-2020, 10:59 AM
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