Poll: Why not keep Andy
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Why not keep Andy as a backup?
(04-29-2020, 01:52 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Good point and I really wasn't even considering our cap situation. Not sure why the pro-keep Andy crowd isn't acknowledging this.


This simply isn't true. Even if you go off of passer rating alone. Then if you consider other things such as wins, TD's and yards, then it's definitely not true. It's fine to bash Andy for the last few years. He did not respond well to having a bad o-line. That said, his run from 2011-2016 was overall "above average".

2011: Had one of the better rookie seasons ever, especially considering the lockout.
2012: 13th out of 32 qualifiers in rating, 31 total TD's.
2013: 15th out of 37 qualifiers in rating, 35 total TD's.
2015: 2nd out of 35 qualifiers in rating, 28 total TD's in 12 starts.
2016: 15th out of 30 qualifiers in rating, 22 total TD's.

Even if you just look at passer rating alone, he had 4 seasons that were above average, and that's not counting his rookie season, which was pretty fantastic. Burrow's my guy and I want Dalton gone, but I can still appreciate what Dalton was able to accomplish in the first half of his career.

This does not mean in any way/shape/form that we should keep him. As a mentor or "competition" or any other reason. It's time to move on.

When I look at those numbers I only see one clearly above average season. Is 13th-15th technically above average? I guess, but it’s still middle of the pack which was my point.

His ratings by season:

2011: 80.4
2012: 87.4
2013: 88.8
2014: 83.5
2015: 106.3
2016: 91.8
2017: 86.6
2018: 89.6
2019: 78.3

Again, I really only see one standout year in there.
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Why not keep Andy as a backup? - bfine32 - 01-19-2020, 08:44 PM
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RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-25-2020, 10:39 PM
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