04-21-2020, 07:31 AM
(04-19-2020, 09:50 AM)hollodero Wrote: A state needs authority. If one doesn't like their authority, there are elections to vote for persons with a different approach. But when everyone still should be free to do dumb stuff that threatens the community, then this is not freedom. Not for those that get infected and possibly die because some folks won't respect sensible measures. Many seem to confuse freedom with recklessness and egocentrism. In fact it comes with responsibility.
Generally, I'd say folks need to listen to actual experts more. Which is hard, since your country is so divided and so many would believe Trump over everyone on any topic. But these experts and their recommendations could make one determine if measures are appropriate or over the top.
Admittedly, I live in a country where though we usually dislike our politicians very much, we still trust them to act reasonable and in good faith in times like those, and that their decisions are shaped by expertise. Makes it easier to see it that way.
On Constitutional grounds, Trump has the power under Title 42 of U.S. Code to halt all immigration. The 2018 upholding of his 2018 ban also gives him precedent. I suspect there will be no shortage of experts that will be paraded out to justify and support his decision. And I'm sure his slide show of CDC numbers and models shows how we need a total immigrant ban to keep us safe is already ready to roll for today.
I'm not an expert on any of these people, fields or things Trump will show to me as evidence, but I'm already questioning why I should trust or believe any of it. What good are expert recommendations if the experts are paid by or receive funding from the government they are backing? And when the DNC trots experts out to counter Trump, how do I trust their evidence is 100% correct and not fitted to be an attack on Trump?
The average person can't sift through the bias and issues in these highly specified fields that we don't study ourselves.