05-21-2020, 08:02 PM
(05-21-2020, 06:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote: In here Not blaming Trump for everything=Defending Trump. It's been that way for about the last 5 years.
Pushing a medication with potentially fatal side effects without any proven benefits is the issue, not Trump. Pretending Trump is the issue instead of his advocacy of an unproven treatment is defending Trump although I know you'll deny it.
Quote:Sunset asked why the uproar over HQC and I said it's because Trump is the one advocating it. From your above responses it appears you do not have a lot of faith in your fellow Healthcare providers. Any healthcare provider who writes a prescription for a patient he/she doesn't need or worse yet could cause them harm is to blame not POTUS.
https://www.cdc.gov/antibiotic-use/stewardship-report/outpatient.html
Quote:CDC experts found that healthy adults with acute bronchitis only received the right treatment—meaning they did not get an antibiotic—just over 20 percent of the time. This shows that nearly 80 percent of the time, patients were getting an antibiotic unnecessarily.
I know you don't have any idea how often I have to deal with this. But, it is certainly weekly, if not daily. "What do you mean I don't need an antibiotic?" "Why does my doctor always give me an antibiotic?" "I have an infection. Everybody knows you get an antibiotic for an infection!" "My mucous is GREEN!" "But, I'm usually better in a day or two. I know I need an antibiotic if it lasts three days." "I KNOW MY BODY!!!" "I know I have sinuses here (points to top of head where there aren't any sinuses.) I'm really tired. And the bottom of my feet hurt. And when the bottom of my feet hurt I know I have a sinus infection and need an antibiotic." Demands a refund, curses out the staff, threatens me, doesn't leave until security is called.<==That guy was from Kentucky. WTF kinda biology classes do y'all teach? Then there are the arguments. The arguments last twice as long as the visit. That makes the wait time for everyone else even longer. So they complain even more about the wait times. Besides the demanding or misinformed patients, there are their complaints. Patient complaints from post-visit surveys affect reimbursement, which I care about the patient's quality of care and less so about reimbursement, but many doctors and all administrators do. Then there are the bad Yelp on online reviews just trashing you as the dumbest SOB ever. Then there are the threats to report me. I've shown nurses the Infectious Disease Society of America's guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of acute bacterial sinusitis that confirms every thing I just told them and they still want to argue and they are in the medical field and should know better. Why do you think we have MRSA? Because patients take antibiotics when they aren't needed or we prescribe them when they aren't needed. Most of the time they are over prescribed it is because many doctors aren't good at telling their patients "no" because they want to help and get bullied by demanding, overbearing patients or it takes twice as long to explain why you don't need an antibiotic than it is to give you one and get you out the door. If you have a doctor give you a z pack for a "sinus infection" after 3 days of a stuffy nose and you don't have an allergy to penicillin; he just gave that to you to shut you up, get you out the door, and move on to the next patient to avoid the argument.
So I'm familiar with providers writing unnecessary prescriptions. Not my first rodeo. Writing a z pack for a cold is stupid. Writing a prescription with potentially fatal side effects with no proven benefit for the President of the United States is REALLY F'N STUPID.
Quote:I've clearly said his touting of household cleaners was some dangerous shit, but this HCQ pimping really is not. There are folks out there that are sick and dying, with no remedy. Why are we mad if POTUS tells them there might be hope?
It has potentially fatal side effects and isn't proven to prevent Covid-19. It's no more effective than taking a tic tac, but at least a tic tac doesn't have the potential to kill you. So, yeah, it can be dangerous. You're just not well informed enough to know any better. And thus, to you, this is all about Trump. Which it is because he is the one trying to sell the snake oil.