09-25-2020, 04:12 PM
(09-25-2020, 02:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Racial profiling by law enforcement is a fact.
No it's not. Do individual officers sometimes engage in a tactic that could fall under this definition, sure. Is it systemic in law enforcement no. So, not a fact.
Quote:Police lying to cover up for bad cops is a fact.
It happens much less frequently than people like you believe.
Quote:The existence of racism in America today is a fact.
Uh, the existence of racism in every single country on the planet is a fact.
Quote:Now please tell me what "fact" you have to prove that none of the recent killings/cover ups (George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmed Arbery) were in no way racially motivated.
As other's have pointed out Aubrey was not killed by law enforcement. Also, you don't have any facts that say they were killed because of their ethnicity. That may well have been a motivating factor in the Floyd and Aubrey case, but you can't say it's a fact because it's not. It may even be highly likely, but it's still not a fact.
Quote:I'll bet you don't have any. Instead it is just your point of view.
Oh man, this statement written by you brings an ear to ear grin to my face.
Quote:You don't think racism is ever an issue unless there is some sort of clear and convince proof that it is. But based on the life experiences of minorities they think racism is an issue unless there is some clear and convincing evidence that it is not.
So he wants proof but you're on the side of no proof needed. Quite an interesting perspective for a criminal law attorney.
Quote:Since there is usually no clear and convincing evidence either way you are always going to see things differently from minorities. As a white person you have the privilege to assume that racism is never an issue.
You essentially just said that feelings trump facts, which they don't. People are free to feel anyway they want, but that doesn't make their feelings factual. I've absolutely seen instances were a person claimed they were being targeted for their ethnicity when their ethnicity had zero to do with it. But even when the actual reason for contact is explained it's still racism in their mind. I don't think anyone should apologize or feel less about themselves for actually wanting a fact based argument.
