06-10-2015, 12:22 PM
(06-10-2015, 12:07 PM)GodFather Wrote: Then how can Green not be much better than Wallace?
To be fair, Green is already pretty darn productive, and there are diminishing returns once you start getting up to the 100 reception, 1,500 yards, 10 TD zone for a WR. Even though Aaron Rodgers is a MUCH better QB than Andy Dalton, the way that the NFL works alone just tells me that A.J. Green's stats wouldn't drastically jump with Rodgers throwing him the ball. I do think A.J. would look better with Rodgers than Andy (who wouldn't look better with Rodgers?), but his stats wouldn't blow up. He'd definitely be around a 100/1,500/10 guy almost every year though, but he was close to that already with Andy from 2012 - 2013.
Not the biggest Andy supporter here, but just sayin'.
(06-10-2015, 12:13 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: All this talk about "superior weapons". Simpson and Armon Binns were once the #2 receivers on this team. The current #2 has 69 receptions for his career and the #3 has 119 for his career.
Brian Hartline has more receptions than both of those guys combined.
Brian Hartline was forced into a #1 role though. That doesn't automatically make him a great WR. Sanu had to step up for injured players and ended up with about an 800 yard season. Harry Douglas has been forced into a #1/#2 role and put up 1,000. Golden Tate was put into Calvin Johnson's role and had a 1,300 year! That doesn't make any of them amazing receivers. They're clearly not BAD, because they were all able to at least handle the bigger roles (Tate more than any of them obviously), but it doesn't make them better than guys with less catches for their sheer volume alone.
I know what you're saying, and I do agree that Armon Binns isn't and wasn't a good football player, Simpson is meh, but Marvin Jones is a very talented kid.
It's really hard to have a fair discussion about WRs with statistics only because a lot of guys are products of seeing a lot of balls thrown to them. I mean, Calvin Johnson could go out there and not rack up stats, but that doesn't mean he's a shitty athlete and WR. We can assume that the best players see the bulk of the receptions, but every team has to have a #1 target, and not every team has an equal receiving corp or QB throwing to them. We can go around and around and around all day long, but I'll never convince you that our receivers are better than Miamis and you'll never convince me the opposite.
