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Lapham on WRs
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(03-09-2016, 09:35 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: If you hit on a draft pick and have the guy under control for 4+ years under rookie wage and then a tag. That beats the hell out of overpaying with one of these monster contracts.

According to Hobson we were right there with the money for Jones. They had something we couldn't offer. A giant hole at their #1 WR spot. Everybody knew it was a weak class. Hence why Marvin got 40million and Sanu is supposedly getting 7mil a year.

I don't think overpaying for leftovers is "trading actually trying to win."

We need a #2 WR and we have a whole draft ahead of us plus more than the first 3.5 hours of free agency.

Sanu and MJ were 3rd and 5th round picks. They are replaceable.  

Great, but while the compensatory picks can be up to a "3rd round", it comes after the entire 3rd round, so you're basically talking 4th round and later picks in exchange for NFL-proven talent.

You keep saying monster contracts, but Travis Benjamin got 4yr/$24m. That's not a monster contract. Matthews and Randle haven't signed yet. None of those three would be leftovers, and none has been overpaid so far.

According to Hobson, $39m is actually $15m, the Bengals are the smartest people in every room, Binns was going to be Calvin Johnson, and some guy you've never heard of is the best thing since sliced bread. Any sentence you start with "according to Hobson" or "Hobson says" or anything similar, automatically loses any credibility or legitimacy in a conversation. Hobson's word on football matters is like Stalin's word on citizen's rights.

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Sure, Sanu and MJ are replaceable, I never said they weren't. Their draft round has nothing to do with that though. It took Marvin Jones 2 years to be useful, and it took Sanu 3 years to be useful. So not only are you now requiring yourself to draft 2-3 WR, you are also hoping they all magically start producing as rookies.

That's the thing you conveniently ignore when you talk about getting them for 4 years on a rookie salary. Sure they're affordable, but there's two big problems with that.
1. Will they ever be NFL-caliber talent? Not certain.
2. How long will it take for them to become NFL-caliber talent? Also not certain.

You're not guaranteed a player to be good just because you draft them, and what if they're like Sanu and aren't really helpful until their third year? That'd be 2018. The hell are you supposed to do until then? Put Tate at #2? Microfracture Knee Surgery Wright at #3?

But hey, on the bright side, at least you'll get some sweet extra picks at the end of the 6th round in 2017, right?
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Lapham on WRs - TheLeonardLeap - 03-09-2016, 08:53 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Bengal Dude - 03-09-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - StLucieBengal - 03-09-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-09-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - DanTheBengalsFan - 03-09-2016, 09:08 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - JungleRock85 - 03-09-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Bengal Dude - 03-09-2016, 09:11 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - mikey6866 - 03-09-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - SunsetBengal - 03-09-2016, 10:19 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-09-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Wes Mantooth - 03-10-2016, 02:27 AM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-10-2016, 06:08 AM
RE: Lapham on WRs - PDub80 - 03-10-2016, 09:03 AM
RE: Lapham on WRs - OrlandoBengal - 03-10-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Shake n Blake - 03-10-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-10-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - OrlandoBengal - 03-10-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - fredtoast - 03-10-2016, 02:38 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Wes Mantooth - 03-10-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - fredtoast - 03-10-2016, 05:36 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - OrlandoBengal - 03-10-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - fredtoast - 03-10-2016, 06:54 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - Bengalbug - 03-10-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - fredtoast - 03-10-2016, 07:01 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - fredtoast - 03-10-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-10-2016, 02:49 PM
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RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-09-2016, 09:35 PM
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RE: Lapham on WRs - TheLeonardLeap - 03-09-2016, 09:47 PM
RE: Lapham on WRs - NATI BENGALS - 03-09-2016, 10:14 PM
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RE: Lapham on WRs - Mike M (the other one) - 03-12-2016, 12:07 PM
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