(03-16-2021, 01:25 PM)Whatever Wrote: You realize that the agent makes the FT# the APY floor for the extension, right?  If you're willing to pay his client $17-18 mil for one season, why would he settle for a deal that only pays him $15 mil a year?  

......lol

Mike Brown is that you??


Cause 4 years with guaranteed money is better then 1 year....

Other teams do this.. tag guy to keep him off the market and then extend him but not here...

Your like Fred ready to fall down and defend this shit no matter how obviously bad it is.



"A franchise tag still leaves room for negotiation on a long-term contract. The NFL's deadline in 2021 for teams and tagged players to agree upon and sign a multi-year extension remains July 15. Over the past six years, about half of the franchise tagged players have received such deals."

Half the players signed an extension that meant they took less year one then the tag number.

(03-16-2021, 01:01 AM)Synric Wrote: Hendrickson has only played at the level he is being paid for 1 season. Even though Lawson hasn't had a healthy career when on the field he creates consistent pressure.

I would say Hendrickson also creates pressure.. he started playing more in 2019 and not starting much of the year, he had more sacks with limited snaps than Lawson and pressures were ok.. last year he had both sacks and pressures with the amount of snaps...

I see no problem signing him especially with back issue of Lawson and Hendrickson seems to be stronger at point of attack which adds to his game

(03-16-2021, 01:33 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: ......lol

Mike Brown is that you??


Cause 4 years with guaranteed money is better then 1 year....

Other teams do this.. tag guy to keep him off the market and then extend him but not here...

Your like Fred ready to fall down and defend this shit no matter how obviously bad it is.



"A franchise tag still leaves room for negotiation on a long-term contract. The NFL's deadline in 2021 for teams and tagged players to agree upon and sign a multi-year extension remains July 15. Over the past six years, about half of the franchise tagged players have received such deals."

Half the players signed an extension that meant they took less year one then the tag number.

Do the math.  1 year with $18 mil guaranteed and a shot at FA the following year, 3 years with $30 mil guaranteed, or 4 years with $32 mil guaranteed.  

You also realize that just because they signed long term deals, it doesn't necessarily mean those deals were for a lower APY than the FT, right? Dak's FT # was $37 mil and his extension was for $40 mil/year as an example.

(03-16-2021, 02:01 PM)Whatever Wrote: Do the math.  1 year with $18 mil guaranteed and a shot at FA the following year, 3 years with $30 mil guaranteed, or 4 years with $32 mil guaranteed.  

You also realize that just because they signed long term deals, it doesn't necessarily mean those deals were for a lower APY than the FT, right?  Dak's FT # was $37 mil and his extension was for $40 mil/year as an example.

The article I quoted was about players signing extensions and playing at a lower number then the FT hit.

But hey, you and Fred hold down the this team is faultless side and drink the kool-aid all day long. While the other 99% of us want the team to win. 

Anyone been able to find Chidobe's contract numbers yet?

(03-16-2021, 02:11 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: The article I quoted was about players signing extensions and playing at a lower number then the FT hit.

But hey, you and Fred hold down the this team is faultless side and drink the kool-aid all day long. While the other 99% of us want the team to win. 

The passage you quoted says absolutely nothing about extensions with a lower APY than the FT.  It simply says they signed extensions.  You're reading what you want to read, not what they wrote.

(03-16-2021, 02:23 PM)Whatever Wrote: The passage you quoted says absolutely nothing about extensions with a lower APY than the FT.  It simply says they signed extensions.  You're reading what you want to read, not what they wrote.

Whatever Fred.

Not reaching.. searched for examples of players signing extensions at less then the cap. Said half did.. 

But... again whatever Fred, seriously just done with you. 

(03-16-2021, 02:25 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Whatever Fred.

Not reaching.. searched for examples of players signing extensions at less then the cap. Said half did.. 

But... again whatever Fred, seriously just done with you. 

Except that that's not what it said.  The fact that you won't post a link to the article so the passage can even be read in context is quite telling.

The #Bengals aren’t done. They’re signing former #Steelers CB Mike Hilton, source said.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 16, 2021

 

(03-16-2021, 03:46 PM)Bengalholic Wrote:

The #Bengals aren’t done. They’re signing former #Steelers CB Mike Hilton, source said.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 16, 2021

 

Wonder what the numbers are?

(03-16-2021, 11:36 AM)Au165 Wrote: I believe it is probably what we talked about in another thread. I think they overestimated their cap against that of the rest of the league and when it became clear they were not in the financially dominant position they thought they were they got caught in no man's land.

Yup, sounds like the Bengals.

(03-16-2021, 12:02 PM)SErebel11 Wrote: If so, that is extremely dense of them. I explained my thoughts of the "salary cap crunch" in advance and it has played out a lot like I thought it would and I am no insider. Really sad to be honest. If all the lowball offer stuff is true and what you are saying is true, they must have thought most all teams had limited liquidity so players like Zeitler were going to get 3-4M dollar offers and have to take them. I find that completely incompetent if that is the case.

Yup, sounds like the Bengals too. 

Hendrickson - 26 years old
Awuzie - 25 years old (26 in May)
Hilton - 27 years old

At this point, I really want to see them just sign one new body for the offensive line.

Can they make a signing and just sort of acknowledge, "Hey we know the line sucks and we are going to bring in new people."

Seriously, get someone and show the fans you aren't completely clueless to the biggest weakness on the team.

(03-16-2021, 04:13 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Hendrickson - 26 years old
Awuzie - 25 years old
Hilton - 27 years old

Said in another thread, both of them are guys that are not afraid to tackle and seem willing to help in run support.

All the reports are they are both better in zone, so looks like a zone defense scheme exclusively.

(03-16-2021, 04:15 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Said in another thread, both of them are guys that are not afraid to tackle and seem willing to help in run support.

All the reports are they are both better in zone, so looks like a zone defense scheme exclusively.

gotta have a pass rush if we are playing zone.

(03-16-2021, 04:14 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: At this point, I really want to see them just sign one new body for the offensive line.

Can they make a signing and just sort of acknowledge, "Hey we know the line sucks and we are going to bring in new people."

Seriously, get someone and show the fans you aren't completely clueless to the biggest weakness on the team.

Seriously, you need to take some time off the boards/NFL for a while.

You've been on here 24/7, constantly complaining and arguing with others; that's definitely not good for your health, man.

(03-16-2021, 04:08 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yup, sounds like the Bengals.

....and they're gonna wind up there in the draft too. Everyone and their mother knows what we'll be targeting.

(03-16-2021, 01:04 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Watching them in FA I think they would pass on Sewell and take Pitts or Chase or Parsons 

I thought i read somewhere, that's what the team's sentiment was. Fix Oline through FA and get some toys in the draft. 

Well...

(03-16-2021, 04:16 PM)Wyche Wrote: ....and they're gonna wind up there in the draft too. Everyone and their mother knows what we'll be targeting.

..and then we fool everyone by taking SurtainII