(03-18-2021, 02:45 PM)Synric Wrote:  


Lol I can imagine Joe saying " Chad said get me some F***'ing Guards."

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(03-18-2021, 02:50 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I hope this isn't too crass, but could you imagine looking down after tackling a guy to see that he's sporting a massive boner?

It's why he caught passes like this.

(03-18-2021, 02:50 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I hope this isn't too crass, but could you imagine looking down after tackling a guy to see that he's sporting a massive boner?

Dammit, for some reason, that made me think of the Naked Andy thread. 

(03-18-2021, 02:54 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Dammit, for some reason, that made me think of the Naked Andy thread. 

Stop. Just stop. Or else Brads gonna gonna reply in 3... 2... 1...

(03-18-2021, 02:47 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: I think were a bunch of people are missing the whole scenario on is Awuzie better then WJ3 or whatever and I get it, that's the most Obvious way to look at it. Player A leaves, Player B is signed. 

I like to look at it from the Angle of Waynes is now the Bengals #1 (replacing WJ3), and Auwzie will be starting opposite him, replacing the cluster of guys we had there last year (Sims, Brown, etc etc). Hilton replaces Alexander in the slot, and as solid as Mac played IMO Hilton is an upgrade.

Also have to take into consideration the scheme, zone scheme is def NOT WJ3's best fit, he is a great man to man cover guy, and that is obviously not something this staff is going to be running as a base D.

As for Trey, I watched every game he played living here in NOLA. Anyone who says half his sacks were coverage sacks, or he got his sacks as cleanup sacks are completely WRONG. Did he benefit by playing on a line with an ALL PRO in Cam, and having solid DTs like Rankins, Onyemata, and Brown? Of course, but in NOWAY was he just getting cleanup sacks. In Fact I would say Onyemata, Rankins benefited more with Trey's get off and collapsing the pocket often and forcing the QB to step up into them. Trey quite often was the FIRST guy to get there on multiple occasions. He also started his climb to this type of play in 2019 closing out the season. 18 sacks in his last 28 games. People want to look at Pressure, qb hits etc as pass rush stats, and thats fine, they are ALL relative, but so are sacks. You can get all the pressure, and hits you want, but did they lead to a loss on the play? A SACK does. If you cant finish then pressures and hits are misleading.

You may be right that without adding another Edge rusher he may only get 3or4 sacks, but that would be because teams can slide their protection to him and focus on him more. I would hope Reader, LO, Hubbard, Geno (if he still here) and someone they add in draft or FA will help to not allow that to happen, but it would be the SAME scenario if Lawson was Trey so....

I get your gloom and doom mentality, because its warranted. I myself just cant sit here all offseason and year after year and have that mentality because then the game I love to watch and be involved in would be worthless.

I think this is my biggest issue with change all your personnel to zone.  This is year 3 of Lou's zone defense.  It hasnt worked in years 1 or 2.  If this defense is giving up 25+ ppg and the teams 0-4 after 4 games does Lou survive the season?  I think he'll be fired during the season or after it because he's a shitty coach but that's my opinion.   If the Defense is that bad and say the Bengals finish the season 6-10, I think the whole coaching staff is gone.  So now your stuck with having to hire a coach who'll bring a coach who'll only coach zone. 

As far as Trey, I respect your opinion on his game, however, i was watching highlights of his sacks from last season, and mehhh.  Dude has a high end motor and doesn't quit.  He's not very fleet of foot and power rushes.  Quite a few of his sacks were due to coverage down field, which he wont have here because in NO he had 2 Tier 1 CB's.   I personally seen a lot of clean up sacks nothing that he came around the corner and blew past the OT like Lawson would do.  

As far as Geno, dudes either going to get his 14M or he'll more than likely be playing else where next year.  He knows his worth.  He knows he'll be able to get 8-10M on the open market and the Bengals aren't going to pay him that.   I'd love to keep the guy cause I think he's a HOF and he deserves to retire in a Bengals uniform but its all about business. 

(03-18-2021, 02:15 PM)TJ528 Wrote: My response to that tweet would be "Have we gotten better and improved the team from 2020 or are we basically the same or worse?"  I can make an argument honestly we're not any better after spending that money.  That's the sad reality of this team. 

This is kind of a side point to your question, but I think just getting Reader and Waynes in the starting lineup is going to compound these 2021 signings on defense. 

(03-18-2021, 02:53 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: It's why he caught passes like this.

"Balls up in there... Chad's bobbling it...BAH GOD HE PULLED IT WITH A WELL TIMED BONER!!!!

(03-18-2021, 02:57 PM)TJ528 Wrote: I think this is my biggest issue with change all your personnel to zone.  This is year 3 of Lou's zone defense.  It hasnt worked in years 1 or 2.  If this defense is giving up 25+ ppg and the teams 0-4 after 4 games does Lou survive the season?  I think he'll be fired during the season or after it because he's a shitty coach but that's my opinion.   If the Defense is that bad and say the Bengals finish the season 6-10, I think the whole coaching staff is gone.  So now your stuck with having to hire a coach who'll bring a coach who'll only coach zone. 

As far as Trey, I respect your opinion on his game, however, i was watching highlights of his sacks from last season, and mehhh.  Dude has a high end motor and doesn't quit.  He's not very fleet of foot and power rushes.  Quite a few of his sacks were due to coverage down field, which he wont have here because in NO he had 2 Tier 1 CB's.   I personally seen a lot of clean up sacks nothing that he came around the corner and blew past the OT like Lawson would do.  

As far as Geno, dudes either going to get his 14M or he'll more than likely be playing else where next year.  He knows his worth.  He knows he'll be able to get 8-10M on the open market and the Bengals aren't going to pay him that.   I'd love to keep the guy cause I think he's a HOF and he deserves to retire in a Bengals uniform but its all about business. 

I can agree on the Zone portion, unfortunely it's what we have and will until further notice...So hopefully they can get the pieces in place to fit that. 

Then you need to stop watching Highlights on Trey and watch FULL GAME FILM. Because he often bull rushed the LT and got to the QB, he also does have a terrific motor and doesn't quit on a play, getting the sack on 2nd and 3rd effort. 

As for the Saints CBs. Lattimore is solid, but he is nowhere near what he was his rookie year. He played closer to that this year, but not to where it was. Jenkins was AVERAGE at best and one of the reasons the Saints decided to cut him to save CAP space. Their Nickel CB is GARBAGE, PJ Williams was so bad they were using a S Gardner-Johnson in the Nickel often. So The Saints did NOT have tremendous coverage that lead to all these coverage sacks. That is Beyond false. 

(03-18-2021, 02:47 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Someone asked Chad is he was the drunk receiver Kitna was talking about. Chad's response:

'I took Viagra before games not alcohol.' 

That would explain why the trainers were often treating him for a "stiff muscle" on the sidelines.

(03-18-2021, 02:50 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I hope this isn't too crass, but could you imagine looking down after tackling a guy to see that he's sporting a massive boner?

That will teach you to play bump and run coverage 

Chad has a way with words doesn't he.

(03-18-2021, 03:02 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: "Balls up in there... Chad's bobbling it...BAH GOD HE PULLED IT WITH A WELL TIMED BONER!!!!

Anyone else read this in the voice of Jim Ross?

(03-18-2021, 03:06 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Anyone else read this in the voice of Jim Ross?

No. But I did read it in the voice of Bob Menery.

(03-18-2021, 03:06 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Anyone else read this in the voice of Jim Ross?

I read it as Vince Vaughn imitating Jim Ross.

(03-18-2021, 03:02 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: I can agree on the Zone portion, unfortunely it's what we have and will until further notice...So hopefully they can get the pieces in place to fit that. 

Then you need to stop watching Highlights on Trey and watch FULL GAME FILM. Because he often bull rushed the LT and got to the QB, he also does have a terrific motor and doesn't quit on a play, getting the sack on 2nd and 3rd effort. 

As for the Saints CBs. Lattimore is solid, but he is nowhere near what he was his rookie year. He played closer to that this year, but not to where it was. Jenkins was AVERAGE at best and one of the reasons the Saints decided to cut him to save CAP space. Their Nickel CB is GARBAGE, PJ Williams was so bad they were using a S Gardner-Johnson in the Nickel often. So The Saints did NOT have tremendous coverage that lead to all these coverage sacks. That is Beyond false. 

I respect that view on Trey from you since you watched his games.  I look forward to this year to see if Lou can actually coach up a defense or we have a new DC by the 4th game :)  

(03-18-2021, 03:02 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: "Balls up in there... Chad's bobbling it...BAH GOD HE PULLED IT WITH A WELL TIMED BONER!!!!

So he's the Joey Ryan of WR's?

I'm told the #Giants are currently expecting to visit with WR Kenny Golladay this afternoon and to host him tonight as well, per source.

— IG: JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) March 18, 2021

 

(03-18-2021, 03:13 PM)Bengalholic Wrote:

I'm told the #Giants are currently expecting to visit with WR Kenny Golladay this afternoon and to host him tonight as well, per source.

— IG: JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) March 18, 2021

 

I have a hard time seeing him pick us, especially with such a long visit, but you never know.

(03-18-2021, 03:12 PM)TJ528 Wrote: I respect that view on Trey from you since you watched his games.  I look forward to this year to see if Lou can actually coach up a defense or we have a new DC by the 4th game :)  

We very well may have a new one by then, but hopefully they get this ship in the right direction.

(03-18-2021, 03:17 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: We very well may have a new one by then, but hopefully they get this ship in the right direction.

Like i've said i have been a fan of this team since 1982 and the highlight of my fandom is definitely the 1988 season because i was old enough to remember all of it not just some of it.   

I'd love to see this team make the playoffs 7 out of 10 years.

I'd love to see Zac Taylor be successful because I like the idea of having a young coach being at the helm.  My only problem with Taylor currently is he's becoming Marvin Lewis in press conferences.  Horrible press conferences.  

Unfortunately, I see better than I hear, and what i seen the last 2 seasons is he isnt a leader.  He isnt someone who commands respect.  


My guess the reason JoeyB likes him is because Taylor went to Nebraska for college and that's where Burrows whole family went.