(10-28-2022, 02:49 PM)TheFan Wrote: Game speed is different than no pads but Lassiter only ran a 4.5 forty at his pro day. I'm not sure that will scare teams about us going over the top. 

True, after hearing what Holic said about Jerry Jeudy being shopped, he seems like the perfect dude to go after.

He is still on his rookie contract, is a former 1st round pick so really talented and would stack our WR corps.

(10-28-2022, 03:46 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: We've got 10 games left and we need to win 7 of them, at least. We dug a big hole early and our margin for error is small, SM ALL. Now is the time for the backup's to put up. For Mixon to really dig in and get it. For Hurst to ball out.

And for Joe Burrow to dig deep down in and get us through it. It's what playoff teams do. And I believe we will.

Believe the same, time to dig deep, well said BF74.

(10-28-2022, 09:44 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I think this is a good chance for Burrow to work on not focusing on getting Chase the ball so much and getting him used to going to his other weapons.

Didn't we hear this before with AJ Green back in Dalton days?  LOL 

(10-28-2022, 12:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I look for Mike Thomas to get the majority of the reps at Z, while Chase is inactive.  He's surprised me before, with a nice grab here and there.  It's time for him to show that he can do it when he's really needed to.

Agree completely and if he can not then Bengals definitely need to move on from him in off season imo.

Think the Bengals are going to have to focus on moving the chains instead of the big splash plays for the most part now. 

(10-28-2022, 06:33 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree completely and if he can not then Bengals definitely need to move on from him in off season imo.

Think the Bengals are going to have to focus on moving the chains instead of the big splash plays for the most part now.

Yep, dink and dunk, take what they give you, mix in some medium stuff slants and back shoulder. But only a couple shots. Really would be nice to get some productive runs here and there as well.

(10-28-2022, 05:45 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Didn't we hear this before with AJ Green back in Dalton days?  LOL 

Big difference in the QB and the level of guys behind Chase. Higgins is a potential #1 WR on several other teams in the league (just needs to stay healthy), and Boyd is a tremendous target as well. 

And again, you have to believe Burrow is the guy, if he can't perform without Chase then he isn't on the elite line of QB's in the NFL. The great QBs the people that Burrow is compared to, can sling the ball to anyone and get wins.

(10-28-2022, 08:34 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Big difference in the QB and the level of guys behind Chase. Higgins is a potential #1 WR on several other teams in the league (just needs to stay healthy), and Boyd is a tremendous target as well. 

And again, you have to believe Burrow is the guy, if he can't perform without Chase then he isn't on the elite line of QB's in the NFL. The great QBs the people that Burrow is compared to, can sling the ball to anyone and get wins.

I don't disagree.  I just kind of laugh at "the upside" of the absolute star player being out.

Just the last few games has shown that Burrow is adapting and mixing his targets.

I doubt now that he'll forget about Boyd and Hurst being on the team.

Tee could be #1 on some teams but he's also working through injuries so I'm a little nervous going forward.

(10-28-2022, 09:36 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: I don't disagree.  I just kind of laugh at "the upside" of the absolute star player being out.

Just the last few games has shown that Burrow is adapting and mixing his targets.

I doubt now that he'll forget about Boyd and Hurst being on the team.

Tee could be #1 on some teams but he's also working through injuries so I'm a little nervous going forward.

Agree 

Have seen many people say this will help Burrow spread it around now and I agree he was locking in on Chase early.

But these last few games he was spreading it around and that's why the Bengals offense played so well imo. 

(10-28-2022, 02:51 PM)TheFan Wrote: If we can't win against bad teams because we're missing 1 WR then that's a massive black eye on Burrow. It's not like our next few games are Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles. We have three 2-5 teams lined up back to back to back.

(10-28-2022, 03:05 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Now is the time for Burrow to show he is a true MVP candidate.  Trent Taylor could turn out to be our Hunter Renfrow/Wes Welker.

This ....if you're gonna be the franchise, you gotta BE the franchise.

(10-28-2022, 05:45 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Didn't we hear this before with AJ Green back in Dalton days?  LOL 

2014 wasn't it....that AJ missed significant time and we still went 10-6 and limped into Indy for the playoffs?

(10-28-2022, 02:10 PM)Tomkat Wrote: Chase has single-handedly bailed out the offense a few times and made game-changing plays that led to W's.
As much as I don't want to say it... I think the Bengals lose the next few games until he returns.

While I agree that he is certainly a game changer I do believe Joe forces the ball to him quite often, sometimes resulting in bad things.
Without the internal pressure of forcing the ball to Chase, Joe should be able to become a little more efficient finding the best targets. 

I would hope to think the team can win a game or two missing their best WR.

(10-29-2022, 12:27 PM)M.W. Wrote: While I agree that he is certainly a game changer I do believe Joe forces the ball to him quite often, sometimes resulting in bad things.
Without the internal pressure of forcing the ball to Chase, Joe should be able to become a little more efficient finding the best targets. 

I would hope to think the team can win a game or two missing their best WR.

Not since game one. 

Joe has progressed. 

He was massively efficient last game.

Usually I'd agree if Burrow was still locking on.

He's not though.

(10-29-2022, 02:23 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Not since game one. 

Joe has progressed. 

He was massively efficient last game.

Usually I'd agree if Burrow was still locking on.

He's not though.

Yep the last 2 games Chase is leading in catches but the rock is definitely being spread around

Saint- Falcons game

Chase.........15 catches
Boyd...........14 catches
Higgins........11 catches
Hurst............9 catches
Mixon...........7 catches

Seems like a nice balance of distribution of the football to me in the recent games where the Bengals have looked good.  

Yet agree with others early in season that Burrow was forcing it to Chase. Felt that was one of the many reasons that the Bengals were struggling out of the gate.

(10-29-2022, 03:18 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Yep the last 2 games Chase is leading in catches but its definitely being spread around

Saint- Falcons game

Chase.........15 catches
Boyd...........14 catches
Higgins........11 catches
Hurst............9 catches
Mixon...........7 catches

Seems like a nice balance of distribution of the football to me in the recent games where the Bengals have looked good.  

Yet agree with others early in season that Burrow was forcing it to Chase early on. Felt that one of the many reasons that the Bengals were struggling out of the gate.

Also the turnover to TD ratio since that first disastrous game is unreal for JB.

Mostly because he's not forcing it so much to Chase.

(10-29-2022, 04:52 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Also the turnover to TD ratio since that first disastrous game is unreal for JB.

Mostly because he's not forcing it so much to Chase.

Agree this league is much too good to force it to one player successfully. 

(10-29-2022, 03:18 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Yep the last 2 games Chase is leading in catches but its definitely being spread around

Saint- Falcons game

Chase.........15 catches
Boyd...........14 catches
Higgins........11 catches
Hurst............9 catches
Mixon...........7 catches

Seems like a nice balance of distribution of the football to me in the recent games where the Bengals have looked good.  

Yet agree with others early in season that Burrow was forcing it to Chase. Felt that one of the many reasons that the Bengals were struggling out of the gate.

Question will be how does the offense change with no Ja'Marr Chase. The Bengals have seen alot of cover 2 zones because of Chase but without him I expect more man coverage especially press/bump and run against Tee. 

Without speed on the offense the Bengals will have to win vs man and create space underneath. 

Boyd may move around, use certain aspects of his game more, but down-to-down is same:

"About not going out there and overwhelming yourself thinking you have to go do too much to fulfill Chase’s role. We don’t have to go out there and me and Tee go for 200 yards to win."

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) October 29, 2022

(10-29-2022, 12:27 PM)M.W. Wrote: While I agree that he is certainly a game changer I do believe Joe forces the ball to him quite often, sometimes resulting in bad things.
Without the internal pressure of forcing the ball to Chase, Joe should be able to become a little more efficient finding the best targets. 

I would hope to think the team can win a game or two missing their best WR.

I think fans may be over exaggerating this a bit. No doubt there are some forced throws but...

Burrow has targeted Chase on 24% of throws, whereas Lamar targets Andrews 35% and Stafford to Kupp is at 39%.

(10-29-2022, 10:58 AM)Wyche Wrote: 2014 wasn't it....that AJ missed significant time and we still went 10-6 and limped into Indy for the playoffs?

Wasn't that was the year we put Rex Burkhead in at WR for the Indy playoff game?

(10-30-2022, 09:55 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Wasn't that was the year we put Rex Burkhead in at WR for the Indy playoff game?

and we all remember just how well that game turned out

Both Boyd and Higgins have proven themselves to be game wreckers before so they're going to command the attention to the Browns defense. That opens up opportunities for the other receivers to slip and slide into the rolls they're paid to do..