(09-29-2023, 05:59 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: I sometimes miss reading Fred’s posts. He often liked to play devil’s advocate which I also enjoyed in my younger days. Gave that up as I got older though as younger people today can’t handle reason, logic and facts. A lot of people here didn’t care for Fred, but I often found his posts interesting and sometimes informative.

I also play devils advocate a lot in life... as like you the older I've got the less I'm inclined to do so.

That said there is a balance and Fred was a bit over the top. I wouldn't mind seeing him back as long as he was on a short leash. People do learn believe it or not to behave better even in their older age I think :)

(09-29-2023, 04:49 PM)Housh Wrote: Chase seems to be a truth teller when you catch him in the locker room

I’m surprised no one discussed this yet. Chase said Burrow not going deep isn’t due to his calf. It’s ALL how defenses have played us.



I just find that hard to stomach

Teams have completely forgone man.

(09-29-2023, 04:49 PM)Housh Wrote: Chase seems to be a truth teller when you catch him in the locker room

I’m surprised no one discussed this yet. Chase said Burrow not going deep isn’t due to his calf. It’s ALL how defenses have played us.



I just find that hard to stomach

Or misleading lmao

Chase likes to mess with everyone, he is a funny dude.

The calf has been a reason why Burrow has been inaccurate, cannot throw accurate deep and why the Defenses are playing us the 
way they are. When Burrow can run and we can really open up the Offense, Defenses cannot play us the way they are right now or 
they will just die on that hill.

When Burrow is healthy, he makes Defenses pay big time for blitzing him. This is noticable to me on how bad he has been against 
the blitz while he is dealing with this calf injury.

(09-29-2023, 05:03 PM)Joelist Wrote: Seeing as Chase has been open and Burrow just missed him shows Burrow's calf is affecting his throwing motion and hence his accuracy. Hopefully he gets well enough soon to push off the calf correctly when throwing.

Yes and even Burrow's timing is off as well.

We just have to hope Burrow heals up and gets it together or in the mean time we play well enough to stick around .500 until he does.

(09-29-2023, 05:59 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: I sometimes miss reading Fred’s posts. He often liked to play devil’s advocate which I also enjoyed in my younger days. Gave that up as I got older though as younger people today can’t handle reason, logic and facts. A lot of people here didn’t care for Fred, but I often found his posts interesting and sometimes informative.

Not going to lie, Fred had some good posts and when he was his good self, he added a lot of good to the board, specifically stats.

But when he was bad Fred, he would just go on tangents and high jack threads for his own selfish reasons...

Didn't care for this side of Fred.

Now I’m sorry I brought him up. He’s going to show up like Beetlejuice if you guys keep saying his name. :lol:

(09-29-2023, 11:34 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Now I’m sorry I brought him up. He’s going to show up like Beetlejuice if you guys keep saying his name.

Don't say his name. 

Who's Fred? This is not the first thread I see people mentioning this name.

(09-30-2023, 12:29 AM)Bengalion Wrote: Who's Fred? This is not the first thread I see people mentioning this name.

A beloved member of the board that has been banned for whatever reason.


I actually don’t know what he did to get perms banned but it must’ve been bad cause it feel like the mods don’t ban anyone forever on here for no good reason

(09-30-2023, 08:04 AM)Housh Wrote: A beloved member of the board that has been banned for whatever reason.


I actually don’t know what he did to get perms banned but it must’ve been bad cause it feel like the mods don’t ban anyone forever on here for no good reason

I liked him, but I'd hardly consider him, "beloved," lol.

And he posted a KKK pic or something of that nature, intended as a joke, but... you don't joke about things like that.

Ok this is getting tough for me. I’m not sure how to reconcile the lackluster play calling with the 5-2 playoff record. Is he Marvin Lewis caliber or is he not? Do I credit JB with the progression or ZT? Blah blah blah

(09-30-2023, 08:04 AM)Housh Wrote: A beloved member of the board that has been banned for whatever reason.


I actually don’t know what he did to get perms banned but it must’ve been bad cause it feel like the mods don’t ban anyone forever on here for no good reason

(10-01-2023, 06:58 PM)basballguy Wrote: Ok this is getting tough for me.  I’m not sure how to reconcile the lackluster play calling with the 5-2 playoff record.  Is he Marvin Lewis caliber or is he not?  Do I credit JB with the progression or ZT?  Blah blah blah

The offense hasn't been that great in the playoffs. It's never scored 30 or more points in the playoffs and we average 23 points. We won a lot of the games because of the defense. Burrow and Chase carry Zac. I don't think Zac could lead a team to the playoffs without one of the best QBs the Bengals have ever had.

(09-30-2023, 08:04 AM)Housh Wrote: A beloved member of the board that has been banned for whatever reason.

Former NFLer Taylor Lewan was on with Kay Adams today, and he was really calling out Zac and the play calling. Interesting to hear an unbiased (and knowledgeable) opinion on what so many of us are saying.

I think the rest of the NFL figured us out. Our coaches suck so bad they can't come up with a new gameplan. Or maybe they just hold onto what used to work and are oblivious as to why it isn't working now? You would think our confidence would be shaken enough to get into win mode. But no, we're just so flipping great we're going to the playoffs. NOT!

(10-02-2023, 07:57 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I think the rest of the NFL figured us out. Our coaches suck so bad they can't come up with a new gameplan. Or maybe they just hold onto what used to work and are oblivious as to why it isn't working now? You would think our confidence would be shaken enough to get into win mode. But no, we're just so flipping great we're going to the playoffs. NOT!

I've basically said this same thing in other threads. It isn't hard to see. The NFL has figured our O out and our coaches refuse to admit it and change things up a bit. Burrow, Chase, Higgins long game doesn't work anymore and Zac and Co. haven't come up with another attack that works.

Maybe watching the game from the sidelines looks different than what most here see on TV.

(10-02-2023, 08:10 PM)RegularGuy22 Wrote: Zac and Co. haven't come up with another attack that works.

Correct. Dink and dunks when your a gazillion points down isn't going to work. Jesus, even peewee coaches know that. SOAB!

(10-01-2023, 06:58 PM)basballguy Wrote: Ok this is getting tough for me.  I’m not sure how to reconcile the lackluster play calling with the 5-2 playoff record.  Is he Marvin Lewis caliber or is he not?  Do I credit JB with the progression or ZT?  Blah blah blah

(10-01-2023, 07:20 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The offense hasn't been that great in the playoffs. It's never scored 30 or more points in the playoffs and we average 23 points. We won a lot of the games because of the defense. Burrow and Chase carry Zac. I don't think Zac could lead a team to the playoffs without one of the best QBs the Bengals have ever had.

Seems for this season at least if Burrow isn't on his game, they are the worst offense in the NFL. If he is on his game, they can make a run in the playoffs. Doesn't seem to be any middle ground here.

70% of the Bengals offensive snaps this season have come vs light boxes (less than 6 defenders in the box).

They have thrown the ball on 80% of those plays.

— Andrew Russell (@Andrew_Russell7) October 2, 2023

(10-02-2023, 09:31 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

70% of the Bengals offensive snaps this season have come vs light boxes (less than 6 defenders in the box).

They have thrown the ball on 80% of those plays.

— Andrew Russell (@Andrew_Russell7) October 2, 2023

“Execution”