With all the advances the Bengals have made these last couple of years you would think they could provide the players with more than Skyline and Gatorade. I would hope any professional sports organization wants to provide programs (nutrition, medical, physical training and therapy, mental health/substance abuse assistance, etc.) in order to keep them in the best possible shape.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40473782/nfl-food-nutrition-dietician-los-angeles-rams-miami-dolphins-cincinnati-bengals

IB4 curmudgeons come in here and yell at the sky that they are millionaires and soft, yadda yadda "this generation".

Cincinnati should definitely fix this. Not having a dietician on staff, providing inadequate services and food options is a really bad look. I think it is also a competitive disadvantage. These guys are your assets, you're paying them millions of dollars. Give them the best services possible.

Somebody, please call Jeff Ruby.

One of the biggest complaints was having no meal service in “off” day

But a dietician and upgraded meals will pay off for the team in the long run


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I was just reading this a little while ago.

You'd have to think (hope) that, with this coming out, and the team advancing out of the ice age with things like the practice bubble, that the team will start providing the players with better food and things like that.

I don't remember when it was, and I'm pretty sure that it was in-season, but a friend of mine that owns Libby's Southern Comfort in Covington said that he was catering to the team one day.

I know that's not fixing nutrition at the practices or anything, but it's a step in the right direction and hopefully whoever is running the team will start making changes.

(07-04-2024, 04:58 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: IB4 curmudgeons come in here and yell at the sky that they are millionaires and soft, yadda yadda "this generation".

Cincinnati should definitely fix this. Not having a dietician on staff, providing inadequate services and food options is a really bad look. I think it is also a competitive disadvantage. These guys are your assets, you're paying them millions of dollars. Give them the best services possible.

The bottom 4 teams:

Buffalo
Pittsburgh
KC
Cincy

Doesn't seem like much of a disadvantage in the dominate Conference. 

Needs to improve!

(07-04-2024, 06:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The bottom 4 teams:

Buffalo
Pittsburgh
KC
Cincy

Doesn't seem like much of a disadvantage in the dominate Conference. 

It would require a little more research than that. You may very well be right, but we can’t make a definitive conclusion based on that alone. That’s a pretty strong list, though.

This is just a rehashing of the same story that ran when the crybaby NFLPA player survey first came out. We don’t know what if anything may have changed since then. Yes, it would be in the team’s best interests to make nutritious food and nutrition advice available to players, but the idea that “while some players can invest in their bodies year-round using personal chefs and nutritionists, not all players can afford it and rely on teams to provide those services, especially during the season” is pure BS. The league minimums range from $795,000 (rookie) to $1.255 million (7+ yr vet). Even practice squad players make from $12,000 to $20,600 per week during the season. These are grown men and the team is not their Mom or Dad.

Sorry, end rant. 

(07-04-2024, 10:19 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: This is just a rehashing of the same story that ran when the crybaby NFLPA player survey first came out. We don’t know what if anything may have changed since then. Yes, it would be in the team’s best interests to make nutritious food and nutrition advice available to players, but the idea that “while some players can invest in their bodies year-round using personal chefs and nutritionists, not all players can afford it and rely on teams to provide those services, especially during the season” is pure BS. The league minimums range from $795,000 (rookie) to $1.255 million (7+ yr vet). Even practice squad players make from $12,000 to $20,600 per week during the season. These are grown men and the team is not their Mom or Dad.

Sorry, end rant. 

When the players complain; I'll take note. This just seems to be players honestly answering a survey and outside agency assigning a grade. It spins some fans up I guess. 

As I pointed out by listing the bottom 4 in the "report" it doesn't seem to have an adverse affect on team performance.

Burrow is the ultimate eraser.

They let Chad Johnson's McDonald's cheeseburger fueled greatness lower the bar far too low.

It must be off-season

Quote:And while some players can invest in their bodies year-round using personal chefs and nutritionists, not all players can afford it and rely on teams to provide those services, especially during the season.

Oh, cry me a freakin river......

Quote:2020-2030 (2020 CBA)
SERVICE 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030
0 $610,000 $660,000 $705,000 $750,000 $795,000 $840,000 $885,000 $930,000 $975,000 $1,020,000 $1,065,000
1 $675,000 $780,000 $825,000 $870,000 $915,000 $960,000 $1,005,000 $1,050,000 $1,095,000 $1,140,000 $1,185,000
2 $750,000 $850,000 $895,000 $940,000 $985,000 $1,030,000 $1,075,000 $1,120,000 $1,165,000 $1,210,000 $1,255,000
3 $825,000 $920,000 $965,000 $1,010,000 $1,055,000 $1,100,000 $1,145,000 $1,190,000 $1,235,000 $1,280,000 $1,325,000
4 $910,000 $990,000 $1,035,000 $1,080,000 $1,125,000 $1,170,000 $1,215,000 $1,260,000 $1,305,000 $1,350,000 $1,395,000
5 $910,000 $990,000 $1,035,000 $1,080,000 $1,125,000 $1,170,000 $1,215,000 $1,260,000 $1,305,000 $1,350,000 $1,395,000
6 $910,000 $990,000 $1,035,000 $1,080,000 $1,125,000 $1,170,000 $1,215,000 $1,260,000 $1,305,000 $1,350,000 $1,395,000
7 $1,050,000 $1,075,000 $1,120,000 $1,165,000 $1,210,000 $1,255,000 $1,300,000 $1,345,000 $1,390,000 $1,435,000 $1,480,000
8 $1,050,000 $1,075,000 $1,120,000 $1,165,000 $1,210,000 $1,255,000 $1,300,000 $1,345,000 $1,390,000 $1,435,000 $1,480,000
9 $1,050,000 $1,075,000 $1,120,000 $1,165,000 $1,210,000 $1,255,000 $1,300,000 $1,345,000 $1,390,000 $1,435,000 $1,480,000
10+ $1,050,000 $1,075,000 $1,120,000 $1,165,000 $1,210,000 $1,255,000 $1,300,000 $1,345,000 $1,390,000 $1,435,000 $1,480,000

Rookie minimum 705K
1 year player 870K
2 year player 940K
3 year player 1,010,000

and it continues to go up with seniority. Sorry if I don't buy their poor mouth "I can't afford a nutritionist" BS.... they ought to be ashamed for even bringing it up.

(07-05-2024, 10:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Oh, cry me a freakin river......


Rookie minimum 705K
1 year player 870K
2 year player 940K
3 year player 1,010,000

and it continues to go up with seniority. Sorry if I don't buy their poor mouth "I can't afford a nutritionist" BS.... they ought to be ashamed for even bringing it up.

What about billionaires & corporations paying their share of taxes since they destroy our infrastructure & environment waaay more than we do? You know since they can afford it.

(07-05-2024, 12:58 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: What about billionaires & corporations paying their share of taxes since they destroy our infrastructure & environment waaay more than we do? You know since they can afford it.

What the hell does that have to do with this conversation?

(07-05-2024, 10:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Oh, cry me a freakin river......


Rookie minimum 705K
1 year player 870K
2 year player 940K
3 year player 1,010,000

and it continues to go up with seniority. Sorry if I don't buy their poor mouth "I can't afford a nutritionist" BS.... they ought to be ashamed for even bringing it up.

Just throwing this out there when you say $705k....

Until the player make the final cuts and finishes Week 1 to get their first ~$39,000 paycheck (of which they see significantly less after taxes as a larger earner), they're still poor unless they got a significant signing bonus, and even then they're in constant threat of never making any more money from the NFL again.

A quick google says an average nutritionist in Ohio makes $57,500 per year. If you are a top tier professional athlete, you really don't want an "average" person.

Unless you're a very high draft pick, you really don't have the job security and funds saved up to hire someone that's going to cost you well over $60k/yr (possibly much much more as I am not sure if you'd have to pay towards healthcare and the like depending on the state, as they would be your employee) until your second contract. Hiring people is expensive.

- - - - - - - -

After all the taxes, the players take home a whole lot less. In Cincinnati, if you make $705k, you're taking home $424k after Federal, FICA, State, and Local taxes. Of course you actually end up having to file taxes for every state you play in. So while you'd have a marginal 3.75% State taxes in Ohio for the 8 games you played there, if you play @Chargers and @Rams that year, that's 2 games with California's 13.3% cutting into those week's paychecks.

So you can see how a guy who has no year-to-year employment guarantee, or even week-to-week employment guarantee, can't afford to be putting 14-23.5% of their entire year's take-home salary on hiring someone.

(07-05-2024, 04:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: - - - - - - - -

After all the taxes, the players take home a whole lot less. In Cincinnati, if you make $705k, you're taking home $424k after Federal, FICA, State, and Local taxes. Of course you actually end up having to file taxes for every state you play in. So while you'd have a marginal 3.75% State taxes in Ohio for the 8 games you played there, if you play @Chargers and @Rams that year, that's 2 games with California's 13.3% cutting into those week's paychecks.

So you can see how a guy who has no year-to-year employment guarantee, or even week-to-week employment guarantee, can afford to be putting 14-23.5% of their entire year's take-home salary on hiring someone.

Are you sure about this? Usually, you pay the taxes in the state that you live in. Or else everyone who travels for work would have to file taxes out the wazoo. When I lived in a hotel in Mississippi for 9 months out of the year, my home work location was Ohio. I didn't have to pay taxes to Mississippi. Well, except for your standard taxes on purchases.

(07-05-2024, 05:27 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Are you sure about this? Usually, you pay the taxes in the state that you live in. Or else everyone who travels for work would have to file taxes out the wazoo. When I lived in a hotel in Mississippi for 9 months out of the year, my home work location was Ohio. I didn't have to pay taxes to Mississippi. Well, except for your standard taxes on purchases.

https://www.krostcpas.com/krost-industry-magazine/understanding-the-complexities-of-tax-for-professional-athletes#:~:text=The%20state%20where%20they%20play%20will%20tax%20them%20on%20their,taxes%20paid%20to%20other%20states.

(07-05-2024, 05:27 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Are you sure about this? Usually, you pay the taxes in the state that you live in. Or else everyone who travels for work would have to file taxes out the wazoo. When I lived in a hotel in Mississippi for 9 months out of the year, my home work location was Ohio. I didn't have to pay taxes to Mississippi. Well, except for your standard taxes on purchases.

I’m a technical consultant and yeah, if I work out if state, I have to pay taxes to that state. I don’t travel much but some of the guys do. And yes, it’s a pain in the ass for them.