But he’s grown on me. Nick Wrights showlisted top 10 coaches and their list was:

Andy Reid
Sean McVay
John Harbaugh
Sean Peyton
Mike Tomlin
Kyle Shanahan
Mike LeFleur
Kevin Stefanski
Sean McDermott
Demico Ryan’s





Idk how Zac Taylor isn’t on this list. Ryans essentially had a Zac Taylor like come up and is already on their list. How can Zac who’s basically done that for 2 years not on the list?



Sports TV is laughable

(07-17-2024, 12:51 PM)Housh Wrote: But he’s grown on me. Nick Wrights showlisted top 10 coaches and their list was:

Andy Reid
Sean McVay
John Harbaugh
Sean Peyton
Mike Tomlin
Kyle Shanahan
Mike LeFleur
Kevin Stefanski
Sean McDermott
Demico Ryan’s





Idk how Zac Taylor isn’t on this list. Ryans essentially had a Zac Taylor like come up and is already on their list. How can Zac who’s basically done that for 2 years not on the list?



Sports TV is laughable

I realize the Brownies have had our number, but what exactly has Stefanski done to be ahead of Taylor for that matter? Hell, he's kicked McDermott's ass when he's faced him, and gone toe to toe with Reid, who I feel is the best in the business. For some reason Zac gets no respect.... maybe some of it has to do with our own fan base giving him no respect.

I think ZT is a good head coach.

I also think Burrow makes up for a lot of his deficiencies.

(07-17-2024, 01:07 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I think ZT is a good head coach.

I also think Burrow makes up for a lot of his deficiencies.

They played pretty good ball with Jake Browning once he settled down though....and hung in there under Browning at KC too. 

(07-17-2024, 12:59 PM)Wyche Wrote: I realize the Brownies have had our number, but what exactly has Stefanski done to be ahead of Taylor for that matter? Hell, he's kicked McDermott's ass when he's faced him, and gone toe to toe with Reid, who I feel is the best in the business. For some reason Zac gets no respect.... maybe some of it has to do with our own fan base giving him no respect.

Well said Wyche, Zac should be on this list above McDermott for sure and above Stefanski even if he has had Zac's number.

Zac has won in the Postseason unlike both of these guys and like you said has went toe to toe with Andy Reid.

Also what Zac did with Browning last year at QB really made me respect him so much more and made me think Burrow doesn't carry Zac all the time.

(07-17-2024, 01:15 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: They played pretty good ball with Jake Browning once he settled down though....and hung in there under Browning at KC too. 

I think Taylor cemented the quality of coach he is with keeping the team competitive for an extended period without Burrow and a no name backup.. easily deserves top ten

(07-17-2024, 12:59 PM)Wyche Wrote: I realize the Brownies have had our number, but what exactly has Stefanski done to be ahead of Taylor for that matter? Hell, he's kicked McDermott's ass when he's faced him, and gone toe to toe with Reid, who I feel is the best in the business. For some reason Zac gets no respect.... maybe some of it has to do with our own fan base giving him no respect.

(07-17-2024, 01:15 PM)Wyche Wrote: They played pretty good ball with Jake Browning once he settled down though....and hung in there under Browning at KC too. 

Well said, completely agree with both statements.

(07-17-2024, 01:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Well said Wyche, Zac should be on this list above McDermott for sure and above Stefanski even if he has had Zac's number.

Zac has won in the Postseason unlike both of these guys and like you said has went toe to toe with Andy Reid.

Also what Zac did with Browning last year at QB really made me respect him so much more and made me think Burrow doesn't carry Zac all the time.

Thanks, and I feel the same after seeing the team hang tough without Burrow. 

(07-17-2024, 02:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I think Taylor cemented the quality of coach he is with keeping the team competitive for an extended period without Burrow and a no name backup.. easily deserves top ten

Agreed, Browning was such a an unknown, and they kept the team in the hunt and finished above .500. I've always supported Taylor more than most on here, no doubt. However, I was on board with the make or break year, and I had doubts myself about how well the team would do without Joe. While Joe puts the team over the top (shocker), they showed they could still be a tough out without him. Hell, with a QB that had never taken a snap in a regular season NFL game if memory serves.

(07-17-2024, 02:17 PM)Wyche Wrote: Thanks, and I feel the same after seeing the team hang tough without Burrow. 


Agreed, Browning was such a an unknown, and they kept the team in the hunt and finished above .500. I've always supported Taylor more than most on here, no doubt. However, I was on board with the make or break year, and I had doubts myself about how well the team would do without Joe. While Joe puts the team over the top (shocker), they showed they could still be a tough out without him. Hell, with a QB that had never taken a snap in a regular season NFL game if memory serves.

Yep, the ledge jumpers were in full panic attack when Browning forced into action.

LaFleur gets beyond too much love (no pun intended) around the league, for inheriting a top 5 QB all-time and solid pieces in place on the rest of the team, then, doing nothing with that for the past 2 years, with Love coming up big in a handful of games last year.

The guy hasn't built anything: on the contrary, he couldn't keep a good thing going.

McDermott is a better Marvin, IMO, I feel they'll never win anything so long as he is the coach.

Ryans is completely unproven: if he does last year for 2 more years, then he's legit, otherwise it was a one year fluke (I may be the only person in the world who thinks Stroud played miles over his head last year, but he played miles over his head last year lol).

But the most egregious? WTF is Sean Payton doing there? This isn't 2010.

Zac and Dan Campbell should be on here, as both have built a team from the ground up, solidifying their status and having results to prove it, with Campbell being 2 years behind where we are.

(07-17-2024, 12:51 PM)Housh Wrote: But he’s grown on me. Nick Wrights showlisted top 10 coaches and their list was:

Andy Reid
Sean McVay
John Harbaugh
Sean Peyton
Mike Tomlin
Kyle Shanahan
Mike LeFleur
Kevin Stefanski
Sean McDermott
Demico Ryan’s





Idk how Zac Taylor isn’t on this list. Ryans essentially had a Zac Taylor like come up and is already on their list. How can Zac who’s basically done that for 2 years not on the list?



Sports TV is laughable

Sean Payton?

What year is it? lol

(07-17-2024, 04:45 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: LaFleur gets beyond too much love (no pun intended) around the league, for inheriting a top 5 QB all-time and solid pieces in place on the rest of the team, then, doing nothing with that for the past 2 years, with Love coming up big in a handful of games last year.

The guy hasn't built anything: on the contrary, he couldn't keep a good thing going.

McDermott is a better Marvin, IMO, I feel they'll never win anything so long as he is the coach.

Ryans is completely unproven: if he does last year for 2 more years, then he's legit, otherwise it was a one year fluke (I may be the only person in the world who thinks Stroud played miles over his head last year, but he played miles over his head last year lol).

But the most egregious? WTF is Sean Payton doing there? This isn't 2010.

Zac and Dan Campbell should be on here, as both have built a team from the ground up, solidifying their status and having results to prove it, with Campbell being 2 years behind where we are.

Right

There's 3 or 4 questionable guys on there that ZT should be ahead of.

(07-17-2024, 03:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yep, the ledge jumpers were in full panic attack when Browning forced into action.

We was not. We was busy planning for a top 5 pick!


Zac is a good HC. Many top picks have been ruined. He’s succeeded in time management, big games, having a disciplined team (lack of penalties shouldn’t be overlooked), and big historic moments (stoping a game, Covid)

He should be in the top 7 at least.

Taylor has three last place finishes in five seasons of coaching. Why would he belong in the top ten coaches?

(07-17-2024, 10:05 PM)dxdtdemon Wrote: Taylor has three last place finishes in five seasons of coaching. Why would he belong in the top ten coaches?

Because he's had a winning record in his last 3 years as an HC and has been to the Conference Championship Game in 2 of them. He had a poor record his first 2 years as he molded his team.

Name 10 other coaches who deserve it over him.

(07-17-2024, 10:05 PM)dxdtdemon Wrote: Taylor has three last place finishes in five seasons of coaching. Why would he belong in the top ten coaches?

Let's see,
First 2 years rebuilding an entire team, instilling a new culture
3rd year take us to the SB
4th year takes us back to AFCCG
5th year our franchise QB goes on season ending IR, yet Zac keeps the team in the playoff hunt

Anymore stupid questions?

(07-17-2024, 05:20 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Sean Payton?

What year is it? lol

He’s so overrated and his comments on Nathaniel Hackett were so poor.

(07-17-2024, 12:59 PM)Wyche Wrote: I realize the Brownies have had our number, but what exactly has Stefanski done to be ahead of Taylor for that matter? Hell, he's kicked McDermott's ass when he's faced him, and gone toe to toe with Reid, who I feel is the best in the business. For some reason Zac gets no respect.... maybe some of it has to do with our own fan base giving him no respect.

I think if the Browns do not win a playoff game this year that Stefanski will be fired.  

(07-17-2024, 10:05 PM)dxdtdemon Wrote: Taylor has three last place finishes in five seasons of coaching. Why would he belong in the top ten coaches?

TDS
Taylor derangement syndrome

(07-17-2024, 04:45 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: LaFleur gets beyond too much love (no pun intended) around the league, for inheriting a top 5 QB all-time and solid pieces in place on the rest of the team, then, doing nothing with that for the past 2 years, with Love coming up big in a handful of games last year.

The guy hasn't built anything: on the contrary, he couldn't keep a good thing going.

McDermott is a better Marvin, IMO, I feel they'll never win anything so long as he is the coach.

Ryans is completely unproven: if he does last year for 2 more years, then he's legit, otherwise it was a one year fluke (I may be the only person in the world who thinks Stroud played miles over his head last year, but he played miles over his head last year lol).

But the most egregious? WTF is Sean Payton doing there? This isn't 2010.

Zac and Dan Campbell should be on here, as both have built a team from the ground up, solidifying their status and having results to prove it, with Campbell being 2 years behind where we are.

Good point on Campbell. That's a pretty big oversight too.