I'm listening to the whole media availability and just heard an interesting exchange.

Reporter: "They said you were the number 2 priority after Joe Burrow, do you feel like their offer represented this?"

Chase: "*Laughs* now it does"

Does seem like the reports this week of us coming up substantially are true.

(09-06-2024, 01:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: The holdup is always the structure. You can go back to almost every guy we couldn't come to a deal with and in most cases it was how we do structuring of the deals with guarantees. It's a double edged sword, the players want it but at the other side we are one of the best teams in the league in terms of dead cap space. We simply don't get stuck in contracts we can't get out of.

Yep. 

The Bengals will have to evolve though, especially with their really good players. Any really good player is going to want guaranteed money and they can get it on some other team in the league if not the Bengals. 

You can skate around it with guys like Pratt, Wilson, etc. 

But guys like Burrow, Chase, Higgins...forget about it. 

I can’t post it because I’m on my way to present up in Cinci but hi saw Chase’s Tweet that says they’re close and he’ll play without a deal.

(09-06-2024, 01:47 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'm listening to the whole media availability and just heard an interesting exchange.

Reporter: "They said you were the number 2 priority after Joe Burrow, do you feel like their offer represented this?"

Chase: "*Laughs* now it does"

Does seem like the reports this week of us coming up substantially are true.

Certainly sounds like it, thanks Au165. 

(09-06-2024, 01:49 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Yep. 

The Bengals will have to evolve though, especially with their really good players. Any really good player is going to want guaranteed money and they can get it on some other team in the league if not the Bengals. 

You can skate around it with guys like Pratt, Wilson, etc. 

But guys like Burrow, Chase, Higgins...forget about it. 

Yes, the NFL is all about adapting.

(09-06-2024, 01:50 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I can’t post it because I’m on my way to present up in Cinci but hi saw Chase’s Tweet that says they’re close and he’ll play without a deal.

Heard the same thing. Good news on both fronts.

I'm too old for this thread title to be updated constantly. I want to see a "Chase signs" in place of a "Chase not practicing," which causes my heart to skip a few beats everytime it's updated.

None of these contract negotiations are easy, especially in a year when numerous other high performers in the same position are negotiating. He wants to be the #1 paid receiver in the NFL. He made no apologies for that. That means, his team wasn't ready to delve deeply into the negotiations until everyone else got their deal. So here we are.

(09-06-2024, 01:55 PM)MTBengalsFan Wrote: I'm too old for this thread title to be updated constantly. I want to see a "Chase signs" in place of a "Chase not practicing," which causes my heart to skip a few beats everytime it's updated.

Go fishing Gramps 2.0

Well that puts a different perspective on the contract situations.

Ja'Marr Chase's opening statement today:
"I did not ask for a contract or demand a contract this year."

Says the front office approached him about getting a deal done in the offseason, before training camp.#Bengals | @WLWT

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 6, 2024

(09-06-2024, 02:48 PM)Synric Wrote: Well that puts a different perspective on the contract situations.

Ja'Marr Chase's opening statement today:
"I did not ask for a contract or demand a contract this year."

Says the front office approached him about getting a deal done in the offseason, before training camp.#Bengals | @WLWT

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 6, 2024

Which makes Mike Brown's infamous comments at mock turtle  soup  day seem even more bizarre. Like, why let that dude even talk anymore.

(09-06-2024, 02:48 PM)Synric Wrote: Well that puts a different perspective on the contract situations.

Ja'Marr Chase's opening statement today:
"I did not ask for a contract or demand a contract this year."

Says the front office approached him about getting a deal done in the offseason, before training camp.#Bengals | @WLWT

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 6, 2024

Too many people forget there are two sides to every story when they start attacking other people's character.

(09-06-2024, 02:48 PM)Synric Wrote: Well that puts a different perspective on the contract situations.

Ja'Marr Chase's opening statement today:
"I did not ask for a contract or demand a contract this year."

Says the front office approached him about getting a deal done in the offseason, before training camp.#Bengals | @WLWT

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 6, 2024

This is what stood out the most to me…maybe explains why he would sit out with 2 years left on his current deal. Don’t know that I agree with him on that but it makes me understand his position better. If they said that then that’s his way of holding them to it.

So Ja'Marr sat out because the Team offered him an extension?

(09-06-2024, 03:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So Ja'Marr sat out because the Team offered him an extension?

Yea, he said a lot of really weird and contradictory things in that media scrum. That one didn't make much sense to me either. If you weren't demanding it then why when it didn't go your way did you hold out? Just weird.

Do we need Columbo to figure out what happened?

(09-06-2024, 03:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So Ja'Marr sat out because the Team offered him an extension?

Well yea, didn't you hear this team is going to be full of superstars who are going to play for league minimum and then cash in by making infomercials the rest of their lives with the SB clout.

Hi, I'm Joe Burrow and there are two things I like; winning the SB 6 times and making the perfect omelet but until I found this product I could only achieve one of those goals!

(09-06-2024, 03:13 PM)Destro Wrote: Do we need Columbo to figure out what happened?

As long as no one calls Mrs. Columbo.  Ugh, they ruined one of the best running gags in TV in order to make a doomed spinoff.

(09-06-2024, 03:05 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: This is what stood out the most to me…maybe explains why he would sit out with 2 years left on his current deal. Don’t know that I agree with him on that but it makes me understand his position better.  If they said that then that’s his way of holding them to it.

(09-06-2024, 03:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So Ja'Marr sat out because the Team offered him an extension?

(09-06-2024, 03:10 PM)Au165 Wrote: Yea, he said a lot of really weird and contradictory things in that media scrum. That one didn't make much sense to me either. If you weren't demanding it then why when it didn't go your way did you hold out? Just weird.

I think Clark may have nailed his logic.

(09-06-2024, 03:20 PM)Whatever Wrote: I think Clark may have nailed his logic.

That's some pretty bad logic. Teams engage with guys early all the time, I have never heard of it triggering a holdout. I am sure the Bengals would have liked to get a deal done this offseason at a fair number. I don't think they were tripping over themselves to overpay him so this idea that just because they want to engage it means he gets whatever he wants or he holds out is just...weird.

(09-06-2024, 03:25 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's some pretty bad logic. Teams engage with guys early all the time, I have never heard of it triggering a holdout. I am sure the Bengals would have liked to get a deal done this offseason at a fair number. I don't think they were tripping over themselves to overpay him so this idea that just because they want to engage it means he gets whatever he wants or he holds out is just...weird.

Keep in mind that we haven't heard anything about an offer, even a low-ball offer, until a few days ago.  Once there was talk of negotiations ramping up, he started practicing.  I can see his point if they told him they were going to get an extension worked out and it rolls around to TC and he still doesn't have an offer.   It's a matter of principle.  Don't tell me you'll do something, then not come through.  

(09-06-2024, 03:25 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's some pretty bad logic. Teams engage with guys early all the time, I have never heard of it triggering a holdout. I am sure the Bengals would have liked to get a deal done this offseason at a fair number. I don't think they were tripping over themselves to overpay him so this idea that just because they want to engage it means he gets whatever he wants or he holds out is just...weird.

Thr number they offered at the beginning could have triggered rhe hold-in. He was asked if it felt like they bent over backwards to get the deal done and he replied "Now it does".

I'm 1 of Chase's biggest supporters but the impression I get is Chase doesn't feel comfortable practicing during contract negotiations which is not a team friendly negotiating tactic. If I were the Bengals I would just sign him to long term contract and until that current 1 expires not even approach him again. He is saying if Bengals would have never discussed extension in the first place everything would be fine I find that a little hard to believe.