(09-08-2024, 07:08 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: also brady played with better o-lines than this. If the o-line is gonna be below average, theyre gonna need a talented receiver group. Period. 

Because we know they'll never be a smash mouth run team with burrow and zac around

Mixon was in heaven today. 159 yards

(09-08-2024, 08:46 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:

You listed 2.

and he didnt win a Super Bowl with Moss.

(09-08-2024, 08:52 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Mixon was in heaven today. 159 yards

Good for him and I hope he wins a ring with them.

(09-08-2024, 08:53 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: and he didnt win a Super Bowl with Moss.

No, but he had his best season statistically with him, and was a flukey helmet catch away from a perfect season.

Weapons matter. Don’t care who the QB is.

Same old hole dug to start the season. Wtf is wrong.

Several items which were the culprit:
1) Turnovers. 10 points.
2) Run defense. Had to commit both safeties to stop the run.
3) Lack of pass rush from the interior.
4) Offensive play calling was too conservative.
5) The philosophy of saving bodies in pre-season, shows up as rusty execution early in the regular season.

Gentlemen and ladies; it is the first game of the year. This was a game for which NE had several months to prepare.

This season, the offense has to protect the run defense by scoring early and often. And we have the offense to do exactly that.

(09-08-2024, 08:58 PM)wanga Wrote: Same old hole dug to start the season. Wtf is wrong.

All starts at the top. You’d think Taylor would have learned by now.

Notes

Ass

Zac Taylor does not have any idea how to run the ball, even when it's working.

Meanwhile, Mixon 30 for 159 and a TD.

I listened to the 2nd half on WLW. It seemed a big issue was being unable to finish in the backfield. Laps made his "oh-ah" sound several times and then mentioned who missed the sack TFL.

This is what the Team had to deal with today as possible contributors to not being "in rhythm":

A new OC

A new RT

A #1 WR who did nothing in the off-season with the team

3 of our top 4 draft picks out w/ injury and the other one on the side of a milk carton

#2 WR missing due to injury

New 2nd and 3rd WRs

New TE

New RB

A QB who missed the last half of last year


Maybe we can wait until game 2 before we fire everyone and look forward to 2025

(09-08-2024, 09:06 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: Zac Taylor does not have any idea how to run the ball, even when it's working.

Meanwhile, Mixon 30 for 159 and a TD.

Mixon would have rushed for 43 yards if he was here today.

It's not the players in some cases...

I really hope this iteration of the Zac Taylor Bengals isn’t defined by the sentence “Just couldn’t replace Reader or Bates”


But the Falcons D jumped ahead of us soon as they got Bates and it’s starting to look like Lou was the recipient of Bates and Readers work

(09-08-2024, 09:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I listened to the 2nd half on WLW. It seemed a big issue was being unable to finish in the backfield. Laps made his "oh-ah" sound several times and then mentioned who missed the sack TFL.

This is what the Team had to deal with today as possible contributors to not being "in rhythm":

A new OC

A new RT

A #1 WR who did nothing in the off-season with the team

3 of our top 4 draft picks out w/ injury and the other one on the side of a milk carton

#2 WR missing due to injury

New 2nd and 3rd WRs

New TE

New RB

A QB who missed the last half of last year


Maybe we can wait until game 2 before we fire everyone and look forward to 2025

NE has a ton of new parts too including a new coach and journeyman middle of the road qb. Yes hopefully we’ll get better but no way we should have lost this game.

I don't think our talent level is high enough to overcome the coaching and scheme issues and be an elite team.

(09-08-2024, 09:37 PM)R3stangs Wrote: NE has a ton of new parts too including a new coach and journeyman middle of the road qb. Yes hopefully we’ll get better but no way we should have lost this game.

Yep. You gotta beat average to bad teams at home.

(09-08-2024, 09:01 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Several items which were the culprit:
1) Turnovers. 10 points.
2) Run defense. Had to commit both safeties to stop the run.
3) Lack of pass rush from the interior.
4) Offensive play calling was too conservative.
5) The philosophy of saving bodies in pre-season, shows up as rusty execution early in the regular season.

Gentlemen and ladies; it is the first game of the year. This was a game for which NE had several months to prepare.

This season, the offense has to protect the run defense by scoring early and often. And we have the offense to do exactly that.

Didn’t we have months to prep too? How does that give them an advantage over us?

A bunch of teams with several and deeper "issues" than us and they won this week...including the team that just beat us. NFL is not going to wait for you to fix what you think is wrong.

(09-08-2024, 09:32 PM)Housh Wrote: I really hope this iteration of the Zac Taylor Bengals isn’t defined by the sentence “Just couldn’t replace Reader or Bates”


But the Falcons D jumped ahead of us soon as they got Bates and it’s starting to look like Lou was the recipient of Bates and Readers work

LOL, you expect to take away top talent from the defense and the defense to not suffer?  Would Kansas City's defense be as good without Chris Jones?  Of course defenses (and offenses for that matter) benefit when they have top talent

Burrow was way off today. Indecisive and apparently he was the one constantly checking to wimpy plays. But with that said, the entire design of the offense is dumb. It's WAY too passive, too many routes are too close to the LOS which lets the defense crowd the box, way out of balance run versus pass and way out of balance shotgun versus under center. It's easy to defense because the scheme does literally nothing to make the defense defend the whole field. Only 16 rushes to 29 passes? No RPO concepts? Roughly 90% shotgun?

At some point Zac has to just overrule Burrow if he is audibling to this garbage and force him to play under center so the line can actually block down - the new times we did that it was effective.

Defensively we knew we'd have issues with the loss of Jenkins and Jackson. We should have brought up Rogers instead of who we did and run the defense in more of a 4-3 look with Njongmeta in the middle. That would have given us more strength inside.

They have a week to fix it all because losing to the Chiefs would make us 0-2 in the AFC and without vitally need tiebreakers.

No idea what the snap totals look like, but it really felt like I was seeing way too much Jay Tufele and Zac Carter, sometimes both. Carter was bad last year and it's unfortunate that he's still out there as much as he was today. Maybe once Jenkins is healthier that changes.

This DT rotation is just bad.

Also not a real big fan of seeing BJ Hill lining up on the edge.