(Yesterday, 03:59 PM)Eraserhead Wrote: If he can stay healthy,, I think All is going to wind up being the best all-around TE we've had since Holman.

Definitely possible and once Gesicki is gone or gets injured All should get some deeper routes to start impressing in the passing game.

Already is a fantastic blocker.

Do ya'll think that the team will eventually waive or trade Tanner Hudson before the trade deadline? For me, there is no difference between McLachlan and Hudson except for years of experience. I think McLachlan can give you what Hudson gives you.

(Yesterday, 05:21 PM)BacknDaDey Wrote: Do ya'll think that the team will eventually waive or trade Tanner Hudson before the trade deadline?  For me, there is no difference between McLachlan and Hudson except for years of experience.  I think McLachlan can give you what Hudson gives you.

Hard to tell without seeing McLachlan in a game really.

What I think the Bengals should be doing is giving Hudson another week or two to mend as an inactive and make McLachlan active and give him a handful of snaps on offense to see how he does.
If McLachlan looks ok in those snaps, maybe consider a trade of Hudson to a TE-needy team.
I don't see any reason to cut Hudson though because TEs usually get dinged up and it helps to have someone like Hudson who has succeeded to a certain extent with the Bengals just last year. Proven commodity in the Cincy offense.

(Yesterday, 05:21 PM)BacknDaDey Wrote: Do ya'll think that the team will eventually waive or trade Tanner Hudson before the trade deadline?  For me, there is no difference between McLachlan and Hudson except for years of experience.  I think McLachlan can give you what Hudson gives you.

watch the tapes on McLachian..there is a ton of diffrence.. Mac is a far better route runner..reminds me of a Gronk-Kelce hybrid

(3 hours ago)ERIC1 Wrote: watch the tapes on McLachian..there is a ton of diffrence.. Mac is a far better route runner..reminds me of a Gronk-Kelce hybrid

I am so happy we kept McLachlan to develop.  Im not sure about the Gronk comp?  He isnt that great of a blocker but probably better than Kelce.  As to his speed and receiving ability he matches Kelce's measurables, but he does have short arms.

(4 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Hard to tell without seeing McLachlan in a game really.

What I think the Bengals should be doing is giving Hudson another week or two to mend as an inactive and make McLachlan active and give him a handful of snaps on offense to see how he does.
If McLachlan looks ok in those snaps, maybe consider a trade of Hudson to a TE-needy team.
I don't see any reason to cut Hudson though because TEs usually get dinged up and it helps to have someone like Hudson who has succeeded to a certain extent with the Bengals just last year. Proven commodity in the Cincy offense.

Agreed.

McLachlan is being developed as a Flex TE, so it is critical that he is mentally 100% with the playbook (aside from NFL physicality prep). That is where Hudson's value is - allowing for development of McLachlan. Also, Gisecki being a one year rental, Hudson will most probably be re-signed next year.

I don't see us carrying 5 TEs next year. It may look like Sample as a pure in-line Y, All as the Hybrid/Move and backup to Sample, McLachlan as Flex with Hudson as backup. 

BFritz had suggested in another thread to trade for Mayer. Raiders would probably want All or Sample, since Bowers is their Flex. 

If we carry 5 TEs next year, I could see room for Mayer. If we can develop All and Mayer as the next Gronk/Kittle - a true Hybrid (using the term to denote in-line, Flex and Move combined). That would be incredible to run a three TE set as base offense (one Flex), which would be essentially a jumbo run set and a 4 receiver set, simultaneously.    

Think of the possibilities that set would create. Its like an obese 85 year old who lost 100 lbs ........ soooo many wrinkles (apologies in advance if deemed offensive.)

(2 hours ago)casear2727 Wrote: I am so happy we kept McLachlan to develop.  Im not sure about the Gronk comp?  He isnt that great of a blocker but probably better than Kelce.  As to his speed and receiving ability he matches Kelce's measurables, but he does have short arms.

If we are being completely honest though Tanner Hudson is an excellent player comparison for Tanner McLachlan.

Similar builds tall but short armed narrow frames. Similar developmental backgrounds switching from wide receiver to tight end early in college. Similar play styles underneath receivers with good feel for leverage and zone coverages...

Yeah, I liked the McLachlan pick a lot and still do after how he looked in Preseason. Happy we are developing him and with Hudson
kind of being in the doghouse because of that fumble I could see us trading him and maybe picking up Michael Mayer who had great
production in college. McLachlan does compare well to Hudson and is a bit younger.

(1 hour ago)XsandOs Wrote: Agreed.

McLachlan is being developed as a Flex TE, so it is critical that he is mentally 100% with the playbook (aside from NFL physicality prep). That is where Hudson's value is - allowing for development of McLachlan. Also, Gisecki being a one year rental, Hudson will most probably be re-signed next year.

I don't see us carrying 5 TEs next year. It may look like Sample as a pure in-line Y, All as the Hybrid/Move and backup to Sample, McLachlan as Flex with Hudson as backup. 

BFritz had suggested in another thread to trade for Mayer. Raiders would probably want All or Sample, since Bowers is their Flex. 

If we carry 5 TEs next year, I could see room for Mayer. If we can develop All and Mayer as the next Gronk/Kittle - a true Hybrid (using the term to denote in-line, Flex and Move combined). That would be incredible to run a three TE set as base offense (one Flex), which would be essentially a jumbo run set and a 4 receiver set, simultaneously.    

Think of the possibilities that set would create. Its like an obese 85 year old who lost 100 lbs ........ soooo many wrinkles (apologies in advance if deemed offensive.)

We shouldn't be worried about next year.
Gesicki and Hudson are in contract years.
If All and McLachlan blossom enough this year, they will let at least one dude walk if not both.
I do think they'll still have 4 TEs next year though, so if both walk, they'll add another TE in the draft or FA.

(19 minutes ago)ochocincos Wrote: We shouldn't be worried about next year.
Gesicki and Hudson are in contract years.
If All and McLachlan blossom enough this year, they will let at least one dude walk if not both.
I do think they'll still have 4 TEs next year though, so if both walk, they'll add another TE in the draft or FA.

I love that we are actually using TE's in the passing game this year. Agree, we should keep 4 next year with Gesicki and Hudson both 
maybe moving on with All being the future and McLachlan developing. Sample is signed for years.

(21 minutes ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, I liked the McLachlan pick a lot and still do after how he looked in Preseason. Happy we are developing him and with Hudson
kind of being in the doghouse because of that fumble I could see us trading him and maybe picking up Michael Mayer who had great
production in college. McLachlan does compare well to Hudson and is a bit younger.

Mayer would be an intriguing chess piece, if the price is right and a roster spot can be opened. 

(7 minutes ago)XsandOs Wrote: Mayer would be an intriguing chess piece, if the price is right and a roster spot can be opened. 

Completely agree, don't like that he supposedly quit on the Raiders but that team is weird and Mayer is a Bengals fan and Cincy is where he grew up.